It's official, Trump has been Acquitted

[BugI02]

And I expect people on "our side" to say it's perfectly justified and legit, unlike the one against Trump, no... this is a good impeachment we're doing against Biden, and it's totally not political.

It's a cage match, and our 'better angels' weren't invited

 

[rw02kr43]

Depends, will Biden's articles include and actual crime or will it be "we don't like him"

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Depends, will Biden's articles include and actual crime or will it be "we don't like him"

Impeachment of Clinton started very much as "we don't like him", "illegitimate president", "destroying the fabric of yadda-yadda-yadda" until the perjury showed up.

 

[mmpsteve]

I don't think I was saying what you might have thought I said. I have long believed that presidents don't impact economies much, or at least enough to claim credit or deserve blame. However as you say, in special circumstances, certain policies, reactions to events, signaling, etcetera, can have short and long term effects. So on that we agree.

I do think that Bush deserves some blame for expanding the Democratic wet dream policies of guaranteeing loans for people who couldn't afford them, which was a big contributor of the crashing housing bubble. There wouldn't have been the bad loans to embed if the bad loans hadn't been made and guaranteed in the first place. And that led to a cascading effect throughout the rest of the economy. I think there were signs that the economy was slowing down, and we'd have hit a recession anyway, but the housing crash made whatever would have happened much worse.

My other comment was that Obama didn't help the recovery as much as he could have. A mountain of regulations doesn't encourage economic growth. An adversarial relationship with small businesses doesn't encourage economic growth. I recall that Obama said at the beginning, as he talked about his regulatory policies that the days of 3% growth were over, and that we should get used to 1-2% growth. In that respect, I think Trump deserves some credit to the extent that deregulation has made it easier for businesses to grow. Obamacare had an impact on that.

Although mountains of regulation or deregulation certainly make a difference longterm, it takes time for one trend or the other to take effect. There's another factor that affected the economy and the stock market much quicker under Trump than just deregulation and taxes: Economic confidence. Movers and shakers in the economic world make decisions, at least in part, based on economic outlook - the trend they think is going to continue. When Trump won, and started talking the right talk, and making the right promises concerning economic policy, economic activity exploded much faster than any actual benefits of Trump's policies could have encouraged. The mere promise of sane economic policy kick-started the economy; imagine what long-term sane policy could accomplish.

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[jamil]

I wouldn't worry too much about it. If Biden gets elected, I think the democrats will control the House.

That appears to be a longshot at this point. I'm not sure he can survive through Super Tuesday, let alone win the nomination AND November. That dude has a lot of baggage, is out of touch, and he's just not that interesting to a millennial world. The No Malarkey Tour?

 

[nonobaddog]

That appears to be a longshot at this point. I'm not sure he can survive through Super Tuesday, let alone win the nomination AND November. That dude has a lot of baggage, is out of touch, and he's just not that interesting to a millennial world. The No Malarkey Tour?

Right.
I can't see any way that Biden gets to the WH. If that were to happen things will be looking very bad for America.

 

[jamil]

Although mountains of regulation or deregulation certainly make a difference longterm, it takes time for one trend or the other to take effect. There's another factor that affected the economy and the stock market much quicker under Trump than just deregulation and taxes: Economic confidence. Movers and shakers in the economic world make decisions, at least in part, based on economic outlook - the trend they think is going to continue. When Trump won, and started talking the right talk, and making the right promises concerning economic policy, economic activity exploded much faster than any actual benefits of Trump's policies could have encouraged. The mere promise of sane economic policy kick-started the economy; imagine what long-term sane policy could accomplish.

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I think I called that perception somewhere else. But sure. In the shorter term optimism or pessimism can make a big impact. I thought at the end of Obama's first term the economy was ready to take off but was just held back by uncertainty and general lack of faith in Obama's policies. I suspect that Trump's economic policy has signaled to companies in a way that makes them confident. Tax breaks. Regulation reduction. All plays into that but so do the policies that make the market nervous. Like the major correction that happened when he started spouting off about tariffs.

 

[Alpo]

That appears to be a longshot at this point. I'm not sure he can survive through Super Tuesday, let alone win the nomination AND November. That dude has a lot of baggage, is out of touch, and he's just not that interesting to a millennial world. The No Malarkey Tour?

We'll see. Your observations are valid. We may end up with mini-Mike.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Adam Schiff:

If Trump isn't removed he "could offer Alaska to the Russians in exchange for support in the next election or decide to move to Mar-a-Lago permanently and leave Jared Kushner to run the country, delegating to him the decision whether they go to war."

these are super-serious people doing a super-serious impeachment



https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1224419427363573761

 

[Dead Duck]

Adam Schiff:

If Trump isn't removed he "could offer Alaska to the Russians in exchange for support in the next election or decide to move to Mar-a-Lago permanently and leave Jared Kushner to run the country, delegating to him the decision whether they go to war."

these are super-serious people doing a super-serious impeachment



https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1224419427363573761

Trump should tell him that he will now consider those ideas and thank him for it.

 

[KG1]

Adam Schiff:

If Trump isn't removed he "could offer Alaska to the Russians in exchange for support in the next election or decide to move to Mar-a-Lago permanently and leave Jared Kushner to run the country, delegating to him the decision whether they go to war."

these are super-serious people doing a super-serious impeachment



https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1224419427363573761

Adam Schiff likes to make **** up. He can't help it.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Adam Schiff likes to make **** up. He can't help it.

...and the president doesn’t???

 

[Phase2]

Adam Schiff:

If Trump isn't removed he "could offer Alaska to the Russians in exchange for support in the next election or decide to move to Mar-a-Lago permanently and leave Jared Kushner to run the country, delegating to him the decision whether they go to war."

these are super-serious people doing a super-serious impeachment

As usual, Democrats accuse Trump of their own actions/desires. Why would Trump get rid of a Republican state that helps the US be energy independent from the Middle East quagmire?

 

[Hatin Since 87]

As usual, Democrats accuse Trump of their own actions/desires. Why would Trump get rid of a Republican state that helps the US be energy independent from the Middle East quagmire?

Exactly. Besides, if we was gonna get rid of a state, it’d be California

 

[2A_Tom]

...and the president doesn’t???

All the [STRIKE]news[/STRIKE] negatives all the time.

KNN the Kut Negative Network

 

[Libertarian01]

It's like I tell my coworkers who don't like Trump.

Just relax, take it easy. It will all be over soon.





Five more years and he'll be gone...

These are the same words, by the way, I told folks about Obama.

Regards,

Doug

 

[Route 45]

All the [STRIKE]news[/STRIKE] negatives all the time.

KNN the Kut Negative Network

Cut the cord.

 

[KG1]

...and the president doesn’t???

Whatabout? The conversation was about Schiff in particular. What are your thoughts about that? Stay focused.

 

[nonobaddog]

Schiff-for-brains does seem to have a real flair for ignoring reality and truth. With that and his eye issues he might make a good bit player in hollyweird.

 

[2A_Tom]

He can crouch a bit (or cut off his feet) and he can reprise Peter Lorie parts.