Is Jared Fogel from Subway fame dead?

[rhino]

Nothing they have divulged yet.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

FBI search brought up nothing incriminating.

Too bad the damage is done.

TMZ: Fogle?s legal team says FBI search turned up nothing incriminating | WISH-TV

The headline is a little misleading. When you get into the article it says his legal team "is confident" that the FBI turned up nothing incriminating. Big difference. Regardless, you are right though. The damage is indeed done.

 

[david890]

What will be bad for him if he did nothing wrong and then all this media attention ruins his life. Sometimes I think the media shouldn't report anything until something is actually discovered and not speculate ruining lives in the process.

But...but...but...FIRST AMENDMENT!

The scoop trumps the truth.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

The headline is a little misleading. When you get into the article it says his legal team "is confident" that the FBI turned up nothing incriminating. Big difference. Regardless, you are right though. The damage is indeed done.

Will the news stations be talking about lack of evidence (if his team is correct) all day long for 2-3 days? Where does he go to get his reputation back?

 

[david890]

If she's a cyber/sex crime investigator, she's probably seen stuff that would turn all of us...and not in a good way.

Makes me wonder how coroners and OB/GYNs ever have a "normal" life once they've been on the job for awhile. Must take some pretty thick skin.

/For every Victoria's Secret model that visits her OB/GYN, hundreds of obese and unclean women have been there.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Will the news stations be talking about lack of evidence (if his team is correct) all day long for 2-3 days? Where does he go to get his reputation back?

Oh yeah, I'm sure they will. Right??

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Oh yeah, I'm sure they will. Right??

They say there's a first time for every thing.

 

[bwframe]

Ya know though, if this were you or me accused of this sort of thing, we'd be hollering from the rooftops that this was a HUGE case of mistaken identity.
We wouldn't be letting the ambulance chasers do the talking, right? We wouldn't be waiting around for this to "blow over" either. We'd be getting ahead of this were we innocent...

 

[Libertarian01]

As much as I support the 1st Amendment I could get behind a law that made it illegal to publish the name of anyone accused or charged with a crime. Convicted, no problem from me.

Too many people see someone in handcuffs and that is it, "They ARE guilty!" I would seriously wonder whether my own mother would believe I was innocent if she saw BehindBlueI's or Phylodog dragging me away. She watches all those "we finally caught the scumbag" TV shows. For her, neither police nor prosecutors make a mistake.

Today peoples entire lives can be ruined from false charges. Without an ounce of malice the media can ruin someone forever. Remember the McMartin Preschool? You may not have had it at the forefront of your memory, but I'll bet for those who lived through that circus if you met one of those folks with that name today you wouldn't want to take a chance with them around your kids or grandkids.

Dragging someones name through the mud today can have a longer lasting effect thanks to the internet and ease of checking someone out. This is good to catch true badguys, but hell on the good people who happened to get caught up in something of which they were no part.

There are many on these boards who may not remember the career but do remember the name of Fatty Arbuckle. What do you remember about him? I'll bet most remember that he had something to do with an alleged rape and death of a girl. Yes, he was charged. What I'll bet less folks remember (or just don't know) was that it took the jury in the third trial (the first 2 were mistrials) only six (6) minutes to come back with not guilty, and five (5) of those minutes were spent writing an apology to Mr. Arbuckle.

It is too easy to hurt someone with an accusation today.

Just my .

Doug

 

[wabash]

looks like he put on some weight since those April 2014 pictures.


he had two months to prepare for the physical raid. but the online tracking records will be the "gotcha".

 

[BehindBlueI's]

As much as I support the 1st Amendment I could get behind a law that made it illegal to publish the name of anyone accused or charged with a crime. Convicted, no problem from me.

Too many people see someone in handcuffs and that is it, "They ARE guilty!"

I don't think any of that applies to this incident, does it? Jared wasn't in handcuffs and everything I've seen says he hasn't been accused by anyone but the media and certainly hasn't been charged. Given the investigation of someone with ties to Jared, it's reasonable that the target of the investigation may not be Jared at all.

As an example, I've served a warrant looking for a game console that was taken in a robbery based on the IP address being used to access the Internet. That does not mean the people at that residence were the target of the investigation, they could easily have just been someone who bought stolen goods unwittingly from a Craigslist ad or the like.

Unless you're going to argue for secret warrants and gag orders on the serving of those warrants in routine criminal investigations, I'm not sure how you'd accomplish what you're looking to do in cases like this.

 

[HoughMade]

The answer is not more laws, but journalistic ethics.

....I know, I laughed so hard I fell off my chair just typing that.

 

[churchmouse]

The answer is not more laws, but journalistic ethics.

....I know, I laughed so hard I fell off my chair just typing that.

I had to come back and read it again.

 

[JeremiahJohnson]

Nice video. That's six days old - anyone got a newer pic or video?

She can search my house if she wants to. I have one old laptop with almost nothing on it but old family pics and old rock music...but that shouldn't stop her from visiting me. By the way - anyone want to play the "name that sidearm" game. YES she was wearing one.

 

[JeremiahJohnson]

...by the way I'm going to guess G19.

 

[Libertarian01]

I don't think any of that applies to this incident, does it? Jared wasn't in handcuffs and everything I've seen says he hasn't been accused by anyone but the media and certainly hasn't been charged. Given the investigation of someone with ties to Jared, it's reasonable that the target of the investigation may not be Jared at all.

As an example, I've served a warrant looking for a game console that was taken in a robbery based on the IP address being used to access the Internet. That does not mean the people at that residence were the target of the investigation, they could easily have just been someone who bought stolen goods unwittingly from a Craigslist ad or the like.

Unless you're going to argue for secret warrants and gag orders on the serving of those warrants in routine criminal investigations, I'm not sure how you'd accomplish what you're looking to do in cases like this.

Well, I don't know if there is much difference in the general public of "being accused" and "being investigated."

I do notice that the good little accuser who got the ball rolling gets to keep her pretty little name out of everything. She gets to be "Jane Doe" in the court records while other lives are torn apart. Why is that?

Jareds home was "raided" looking for "child porn." The general public tends to put "investigated for" and "guilty" together rather quickly, don't you think? Even now without a single charge or accusation against him Mr. Fogle has had ties to Subway severed. How just is that?

I want to see as much transparency as possible, but I also don't like the idea of peoples lives being ruined due to their "being investigated for X" without ever being found guilty. If you've got a better idea I'd love to hear it, no sarcasm meant. I could easily get on board some idea whether gag order or other method of not tarnishing someones name until judge or jury makes it official.

The answer is not more laws, but journalistic ethics.

....I know, I laughed so hard I fell off my chair just typing that.

This took me back all the way to my freshman year of highschool, 1981. For you see, that is when a really good movie "Absence of Mallice" came out. A really good Paul Newman and Sally Fields movie.

My favorite character was played by Wilford Brimley. He only appeared in one (1) scene, but it was a goodun!

Doug

 

[rhino]

So, about this hot FBI chick . . .

 

[pudly]

So, about this hot FBI chick . . .

Apparently she failed in her search. If you want, we could all write the FBI and inform them that your laptop is looking kinda shady.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Apparently she failed in her search. If you want, we could all write the FBI and inform them that your laptop is looking kinda shady.

She's probably pretty broken up about it, I'd imagine. Might catch her on the rebound or something.

 

[Peter Potamus]

More Accusations Against Jared of Subway Fame

FBI subpoenaes Subway's Jared Fogle's texts - Business Insider

New allegations against poor Jared. Whether any of this new stuff is true or not probably doesn't matter anymore....Jared has been toasted.