NE Wyoming is pretty much screwed — although there’s nothing there, it’s in between those three pretty clusters. So no matter which way the wind blows, it will be a radioactive wasteland. For centuries.This is interesting
NE Wyoming is pretty much screwed — although there’s nothing there, it’s in between those three pretty clusters. So no matter which way the wind blows, it will be a radioactive wasteland. For centuries.This is interesting
I bet...lolI was in there before cell phones.
GRISSOM ARBWell this thread took off! Holy crap lol. It seems like it's kind of a split fence when it comes to preparing for this.
I'm in north central Indiana between Kokomo and Fort Wayne. I'm not sure of any targets around me but maybe I'm just unaware. I'd be more worried about a larger bomb being dropped on Indy, Chicago, or Detroit. And obviously if that were to happen the grid would likely be down and fallout would be all over this area depending on wind.
Most the research I've done says that staying hunkered down and sealed in your house for atleast a week afterwards is best to let the fallout decontaminate to a safer level. Obviously you wouldn't want any of that stuff on you but at some point it'd have to happen.
I went ahead and bought the paperback Nuclear War Survival Skills book off of Amazon. W
Looks too real
This map is probably a good illustration of cg21's inquiry. All that massive targeting in Montana, North Dakota and the tri-states is likely attempts to prevent our retaliatory capabilities since that's where most of the ICBMs are or were. It begs the question... Are we broadcasting that's where our capabilities are or are we misdirecting their targeting by claiming that's where our capabilities are while in the meantime they're elsewhere? Fact is this whole attack vector schema is very early Cold War era anyways, everyone knows most of the good weapons (both first strike and retaliatory) are under the waves and constantly in motion, making them impossible to target. If whomever fires a first shot at America thinks they can cripple the response mechanism, they're sorely under-informed. Even disrupting the chain of command is a well-rehearsed and documented event scenario our military is prepared for. Those who think they will emerge unscathed will likely have less advance notice of our response than we had of their first strike.This is interesting
This map is probably a good illustration of cg21's inquiry. All that massive targeting in Montana, North Dakota and the tri-states is likely attempts to prevent our retaliatory capabilities since that's where most of the ICBMs are or were. It begs the question... Are we broadcasting that's where our capabilities are or are we misdirecting their targeting by claiming that's where our capabilities are while in the meantime they're elsewhere? Fact is this whole attack vector schema is very early Cold War era anyways, everyone knows most of the good weapons (both first strike and retaliatory) are under the waves and constantly in motion, making them impossible to target. If whomever fires a first shot at America thinks they can cripple the response mechanism, they're sorely under-informed. Even disrupting the chain of command is a well-rehearsed and documented event scenario our military is prepared for. Those who think they will emerge unscathed will likely have less advance notice of our response than we had of their first strike.
The China Strategic Rocket Forces have been converting their ICBMs from single city-buster warheads to multiple 500 KT warheads.Interesting simulation tool
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Thanks for the explanation and history lesson I wasn’t around for that. All definitely makes sense and I knew I wasn’t breaking new ground with my thought. Hopefully it stays that way and both sides just keep comparing sticks.That's the essence of the Mutually Assured Destruction doctrine. The most accurately named military strategy in history. It's MAD!
Most of us here old enough to remember living through any portion of America's Cold War with Russia knows this was basically the foundation of it. Each side liked to boast of their arsenal of world-ending weapons but neither side was willing to use them for fear of retaliation and subsequent eradication. This was the premise of Dr. Strangelove (referenced earlier) and also the 80s dark comedy Spies Like Us with Chevy Chase and Dan Akroyd. The generals in that movie had a succinct summation of the MAD doctrine, "A weapon unused is a useless weapon" and therefore tried to provoke a nuclear war to justify their bottomless defense budget. So you're completely right in thinking the threat of retaliation is the most effective defense against an attack until some nutjob who doesn't know what decade it is or who's in charge has access to the button and pushes it thinking it's the button to summon more ice cream!
Got the number handy? lolHookers and blow on emergency dial...
Walked through the gates there behind another guy when I forgot my badge. Walked inside of the plant to security to clock in. This was in 82. Security sergeant was a friend of mine.Yep. I have done work there as well. They search your tool kit take your cell phone and lock it up until you leave
Run a quick BG check and my sponsor that I did the work for had to remain with me the whole time. Even waiting outside the restroom. It was cool though. They do the guidance systems for missiles. Definitely a target
I used to work at Raytheon (excavating).Yep, heard it in Lafayette (due to Alcoa) and in Indy (due to Allison and Raytheon).
It is awesome to have this option. Most of us live in the blast areas, as the maps above easily could double as population map…We have iodine pills, miso soup, dosimeters, site readers, gas masks and Geiger counters. Our BOL is underground, nearby, and under a reinforced concrete roof, with multiple sources of water, both surface and underground. Plenty of duct tape and plastic sheeting to seal off doors.
The best possible outcome is that I have wasted my time and money.
We have iodine pills, miso soup, dosimeters, site readers, gas masks and Geiger counters. Our BOL is underground, nearby, and under a reinforced concrete roof, with multiple sources of water, both surface and underground. Plenty of duct tape and plastic sheeting to seal off doors.
The best possible outcome is that I have wasted my time and money.
I bet...lol
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