Is 2022 Elections going to be a Red Tidal Wave?

[actaeon277]

I remember talk of election fraud during this election
The left.
They're saying Florida is the result

 

[KG1]

Wasn't just Clinton screaming about election fraud.
And it was for FOUR years we heard about it.

So
Once again.
If BOTH parties have made claims..
WHY is NOTHING done?

Other than ignoring it when they are in power.

The Democrats sparked by HRC and the DNC and possibly the Obama/Biden administration with the help of crooked biased officials from the FBI, DOJ, CIA and the national intelligence agency exacted something like 40+ mil dollar's worth of damage to this country and to democracy in order to undermine Trump's initial campaign and his subsequent duly elected administration in that span of time based on lies.

Now tell me that wasn't a major threat to democracy.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Why do we care who wins these elections? Often times there’s not a dimes worth of difference between the parties.

 

[printcraft]

Why do we care who wins these elections? Often times there’s not a dimes worth of difference between the parties.

40 year high inflation, energy, food, and taxes at all time highs, border security nonexistent, Afghanistan lost to terrorists...and this is what Congress is doing with their time.

Yep.

The senate will save us or something.

 

[BugI02]

Potent criticism from a gateway pundit parrot, I’ll take it for all the value it has.

NoStJoe, is that you?

 

[BugI02]

Why do we care who wins these elections? Often times there’s not a dimes worth of difference between the parties.

I know they lack the balls to just not go along with this charade; but, since they wish to force all states to recognize any other states decision in accepting a marriage, couldn't they at least attach national reciprocity for concealed and constitutional carry to the damn bill and also force states to recognize other states decisions on RKBA?

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

I know they lack the balls to just not go along with this charade; but, since they wish to force all states to recognize any other states decision in accepting a marriage, couldn't they at least attach national reciprocity for concealed and constitutional carry to the damn bill and also force states to recognize other states decisions on RKBA?

They care more about trying to attract people that hate them. The same people that kept on voting blue-no-matter-who just last week despite the highest inflation in a lot of peoples' lifetimes, for candidates that support mutilating children (that are born) and killing those who aren't--those are the people they are trying to cater to. They are fools and they think we are too.

They only care about 2A things when they think they need to get you to go vote for them.

 

[SheepDog4Life]

Why do we care who wins these elections? Often times there’s not a dimes worth of difference between the parties.

Yep.

The senate will save us or something.

I know they lack the balls to just not go along with this charade; but, since they wish to force all states to recognize any other states decision in accepting a marriage, couldn't they at least attach national reciprocity for concealed and constitutional carry to the damn bill and also force states to recognize other states decisions on RKBA?

They care more about trying to attract people that hate them. The same people that kept on voting blue-no-matter-who just last week despite the highest inflation in a lot of peoples' lifetimes, for candidates that support mutilating children (that are born) and killing those who aren't--those are the people they are trying to cater to. They are fools and they think we are too.

They only care about 2A things when they think they need to get you to go vote for them.

The last time Maine voted Republican for president was 1988.

It's a Blue state... and you expect Senator Collins to be MAGA? On everything?

Really?

Maine Presidential Election Voting History - 270toWin

Information on how the residents of Maine have voted in presidential elections. Includes trends and polls for the 2020 election, as well as a Maine voting history and narrative.

www.270towin.com

 

[Twangbanger]

What experts would be trusted?

Any Government-appointed “experts“ would be seen as Trojan horses for hidden political agendas, and any so-called private experts would be seen as agenda-friendly plants placed by the parties.

How much of this issue is really incumbent upon our process? Our electoral system is already closely monitored by the government, the medias, and both parties, it seems unlikely that structural issues, especially those that might be exploited by one’s political opponents for real gain, would go unnoticed or unlitigated.

Much of the current talk of election fraud can be traced back to Trump himself. He was already publicly stating as early as July 2020 that if he lost it would be because the election was rigged. Even if there is nothing to the claims beyond Trump’s sour grapes, the damage is done…the idea has taken roots in the wild.

So, at this point, it’s probably best to pull the curtains back and allow the antiseptic power of daylight to do its work…if our culture actually has the attention span for it, that is.

My guess is all the talk of election fraud goes away once Republicans start getting a few wins and take the spotlight away from Trump, not because a blue-ribbon panel delivers a report.

You say "well-monitored," but you're talking about the portion of the process which occurs inside the polling centers and vote tabulation centers. Mail ballots make the crucial process of actually casting a ballot itself essentially unmonitorable, by moving it outside those environments.

That's why democrat-aligned sources "debunking" vote fraud by claiming there's no evidence for it are usually careful to specify "in-person" fraud. That limits consideration to cases where someone would be either voting a second time in a different precinct for a dead person, in locales where voter lists aren't effectively purged and no ID is required, or people "on the inside" are risking their jobs helping ineligible people get registered.

Those methods of fraud aren't what we care about, chiefly, because their physical laboriousness or high risk/reward ratio make them relatively ineffective.

But mail ballots, especially of the unrequested and mass-mailed variety, are a face-value negation of legitimate elections. They have the ability to alter election outcomes, and no fair person should support it as an ongoing practice. It doesn't just amplify the effectiveness of democrat ground efforts in urban areas; that's not fraud, it's just hustling harder. It makes it possible that un-motivated people who don't vote are getting votes cast on their behalf by other people. And they would have no cause or opportunity to challenge it, because they're not even aware it's happening.

That's fraud. And you cannot measure it or even reasonably detect it, because the people being frauded are not aware of it. Outside of those individual people challenging it on a person by person basis, there's no way any election official could ever prove it.

If you really want to strike a blow against the legitimacy of MAGA vote fraud claims, there's an immediate and easy way to do it: cease the mailings of any unrequested ballots in any election nationwide.

That will do more to undercut the deniers than anything.

Would you agree with this? Or is that voter suppression?

 

[jamil]

What experts would be trusted?

Any Government-appointed “experts“ would be seen as Trojan horses for hidden political agendas, and any so-called private experts would be seen as agenda-friendly plants placed by the parties.

How much of this issue is really incumbent upon our process? Our electoral system is already closely monitored by the government, the medias, and both parties, it seems unlikely that structural issues, especially those that might be exploited by one’s political opponents for real gain, would go unnoticed or unlitigated.

Do you trust Donald Trump to monitor your elections? The problem with the government monitoring it more apparent when the President of the United States tells people that the opposing party is essentially domestic terrorists. Does that cause trust or distrust in the system? When the media admits in a Time Magazine op ed that a "cabal"--their word not mine--of people worked together to stop Trump. That is to work behind the scenes to subvert a result they did not want. Is that democratic?

That distrust trickles down to partisan local elections as well. Kari Lake ran against the person in charge of elections in AZ. Same thing happened in GA 2 years ago on the other side. They should have recused themselves and handed that responsibility off to someone else.

Structural issues? Okay, there are flaws in any election system where people can exploit them. that's just going to happen. And it doesn't usually affect elections when both sides can equally exploit the same flaws, right?

Okay. How about mail in ballots and ballot harvesting? That is a definite flaw. It's inherently exploitable, especially in districts that carpet-bomb ballots to every registered voter. Republicans can't exploit the same flaws equally. Democrats far outnumber Republicans in densely populated areas. Democrats can knock door to door and influence way more voters given the same resources, than Republicans could in the same neighborhood. And if Republicans tried the exploit where their base is, the doors in rural areas are way farther apart. That exploit favors democrats by a lot.

Much of the current talk of election fraud can be traced back to Trump himself. He was already publicly stating as early as July 2020 that if he lost it would be because the election was rigged. Even if there is nothing to the claims beyond Trump’s sour grapes, the damage is done…the idea has taken roots in the wild.

Oh, it's a lot more than that. I'm not exactly a trump fan and I smell some ****.

So, at this point, it’s probably best to pull the curtains back and allow the antiseptic power of daylight to do its work…if our culture actually has the attention span for it, that is.

My guess is all the talk of election fraud goes away once Republicans start getting a few wins and take the spotlight away from Trump, not because a blue-ribbon panel delivers a report.

I don't know what you think the antiseptic power of daylight is. If it's transparency, yeah, I'm all for that.

 

[jamil]

You know, talk of election fraud was well before Trump, right?

Apparently not.

 

[Ingomike]

If you really want to strike a blow against the legitimacy of MAGA vote fraud claims, there's an immediate and easy way to do it: cease the mailings of any unrequested ballots in any election nationwide.

And then you run headlong into the wall of the constitution, on that says the state legislatures decide each states voting rules…

 

[DadSmith]

As of 1803 Republicans are 2 seats from control of the house.

 

[DadSmith]

Two close races here yet. Alaska will probably go Palin.

 

[DadSmith]

As of 1845 est time. 1 more for house control.

 

[jamil]

Hold on. Election officials have to wait until enough Democrat zoomers have fixed their invalid ballots to overcome Boebert’s lead before they can call that one.

 

[BugI02]

Hold on. Election officials have to wait until enough Democrat zoomers have fixed their invalid ballots to overcome Boebert’s lead before they can call that one.

Yeah, I notice the counts drag on interminably but the moment they get an advantage their media mouthpieces want to call it

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

BREAKING: Republicans take the House of Representatives

Republicans have won a majority in the US House with at least 218 seats

thepostmillennial.com

 

[KG1]

BREAKING: Republicans take the House of Representatives

Republicans have won a majority in the US House with at least 218 seats

thepostmillennial.com

Not seeing this yet. The two outlets I've been following the latest is the Rs have been stuck at 217 while the Ds have still been gaining ground. R 217 - D 209 with 10 seats still yet to be called. This **** is getting to be annoying to watch. The Rs can't get that last seat while the Ds keep creeping up in the count.

IDK what's up but if the Ds manage to take this coming down to the wire here with the Rs so close I guarantee a lot of people are gonna question just what the **** was going on especially with the vote counts taking so long. And they wonder why people don't have faith in the integrity of the election.

 

[Ingomike]

Other than your circle you discuss politics with, are any of you hearing from those you interact with that they have a concern in the world about the election situations?

I am not…