Indiana House revives drug testing plan for welfare clients

[ModernGunner]

This should have been the standard from the start.

Test 'em all, let 'god' sort 'em out.

Nowadays, testing is pretty easy, and inexpensive. 'Portable' test kits can be had for a couple $$ (depending on the amount and variety of drugs being tested), and a half-dozen+ kits can be provided to and kept on hand by every case worker for a $20 bill.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Test 'em all, let 'god' sort 'em out.

Nowadays, testing is pretty easy, and inexpensive. 'Portable' test kits can be had for a couple $$ (depending on the amount and variety of drugs being tested), and a half-dozen+ kits can be provided to and kept on hand by every case worker for a $20 bill.

I think it's a very bad idea. What do you test for? And who do you test?

 

[ModernGunner]

I think it's a very bad idea. What do you test for? And who do you test?

The kits are available for a wide variety of drugs, and are available to test for more than one drug at a time, like 6, 7, 8 different drugs with the same kit. Obviously, the more drugs the kit tests for, the higher price for that kit, but still very inexpensive (say in the $10 - $12 per kit range for 6 - 8 drugs +/-).

Who to test? Initially, everyone. Once accepted into whatever program, randomly or if any of a number of indicators appear. But everyone should be tested annually, at the absolute minimum. More like semi-annually or, better still, quarterly. Today the cost is negligible.

This should be standard practice for anyone receiving income / benefits from taxpayer dollars. And YES, this should include politicians, firefighters, police officers, and all other government workers, or those who receive income from tax dollars.

Those folks, of course, have the choice not to take the position, or receive the taxpayer funds.

 

[D-Ric902]

Test 'em all, let 'god' sort 'em out.

Nowadays, testing is pretty easy, and inexpensive. 'Portable' test kits can be had for a couple $$ (depending on the amount and variety of drugs being tested), and a half-dozen+ kits can be provided to and kept on hand by every case worker for a $20 bill.

In my experience, the case workers are as bad as the cases

 

[ModernGunner]

In my experience, the case workers are as bad as the cases

And that issue is addressed in my post (#63) immediately above.

 

[Kutnupe14]

The kits are available for a wide variety of drugs, and are available to test for more than one drug at a time, like 6, 7, 8 different drugs with the same kit. Obviously, the more drugs the kit tests for, the higher price for that kit, but still very inexpensive (say in the $10 - $12 per kit range for 6 - 8 drugs +/-).

Who to test? Initially, everyone. Once accepted into whatever program, randomly or if any of a number of indicators appear. But everyone should be tested annually, at the absolute minimum. More like semi-annually or, better still, quarterly. Today the cost is negligible.

This should be standard practice for anyone receiving income / benefits from taxpayer dollars. And YES, this should include politicians, firefighters, police officers, and all other government workers, or those who receive income from tax dollars.

Those folks, of course, have the choice not to take the position, or receive the taxpayer funds.

Whoa there bro. You're taken it to a whole 'nother level. Do you know how many people that applies to?

 

[D-Ric902]

The kits are available for a wide variety of drugs, and are available to test for more than one drug at a time, like 6, 7, 8 different drugs with the same kit. Obviously, the more drugs the kit tests for, the higher price for that kit, but still very inexpensive (say in the $10 - $12 per kit range for 6 - 8 drugs +/-).

Who to test? Initially, everyone. Once accepted into whatever program, randomly or if any of a number of indicators appear. But everyone should be tested annually, at the absolute minimum. More like semi-annually or, better still, quarterly. Today the cost is negligible.

This should be standard practice for anyone receiving income / benefits from taxpayer dollars. And YES, this should include politicians, firefighters, police officers, and all other government workers, or those who receive income from tax dollars.

Those folks, of course, have the choice not to take the position, or receive the taxpayer funds.

typing at the same time

Welfare recipients aren't unionized (yet)
I can see all kinds of SEIU protests and Democrat politicians running for the cameras

 

[Ericpwp]

And...

They did think of it. Property owners voted. You had to have skin in the game.

 

[hoosierdoc]

Oh, so you want slaves

slaves of the poor (women and minorities hurt most)

Careful, my filter has been removed.

it's not about what I want for me. I want dignity for them. Free money does not change anything for anyone. We've proven that for decades.

 

[churchmouse]

Careful, my filter has been removed.

it's not about what I want for me. I want dignity for them. Free money does not change anything for anyone. We've proven that for decades.

Post #53

 

[D-Ric902]

And 58
and 60

 

[miguel]

Revive the CCC: Civilian Conservation Corps - Facts & Summary - HISTORY.com

 

[D-Ric902]

Revive the CCC: Civilian Conservation Corps - Facts & Summary - HISTORY.com

the first thing I thought of was Roosevelt's alphabet agencies

 

[17 squirrel]

Boom! Common sense has entered the room.

I am having a difficult time believing that you would go along with " working on the government plantation ' is a good thing.
How about drug testing and work for your taxpayer handout.

 

[17 squirrel]

Whoa there bro. You're taken it to a whole 'nother level. Do you know how many people that applies to?

Compared to the drug testing in the private sector, not alot.

 

[D-Ric902]

I am having a difficult time believing that you would go along with " working on the government plantation ' is a good thing.
How about drug testing and work for your taxpayer handout.

this is not me
I just want to make sure it is understood that this is not my post

(AA&E, Bubba Effect are you listening?)

 

[Robert Richardson]

Well, one of them did...

“When the people find that they can vote themselves money that will herald the end of the republic.” - Ben Franklin

Ben was a very smart man. Test all the able bodied, and give them some community service work to earn the benefits they get.

 

[KLB]

This is a total waste. It will take a couple of days for them to figure out how to get around being tested.

Government assistance recipients would take a written test first. If the test indicated likely drug use, they could be chosen for a monthly random drug test.

Indiana House okays drug testing of welfare recipients - 13 WTHR Indianapolis

What a grand idea.

 

[17 squirrel]

This is a total waste. It will take a couple of days for them to figure out how to get around being tested.


Indiana House okays drug testing of welfare recipients - 13 WTHR Indianapolis

What a grand idea.

The drug testing bypass is already here, all you need is a prescription for your narcotic of choice and ' boom ' when you take your drug test you give them your doctors name and waala, you pass the drug test because your drug of choice has been elimited from the test.
What needs to be tested is the amount of your prescribed drug in your system. If it does not match your prescription you fail the test.

 

[D-Ric902]

The drug testing bypass is already here, all you need is a prescription for your narcotic of choice and ' boom ' when you take your drug test you give them your doctors name and waala, you pass the drug test because your drug of choice has been elimited from the test.
What needs to be tested is the amount of your prescribed drug in your system. If it does not match your prescription you fail the test.

i have personal experience that this does indeed happen