The #1 community for Gun Owners in Indiana

Member Benefits:

  • Fewer Ads!
  • Discuss all aspects of firearm ownership
  • Discuss anti-gun legislation
  • Buy, sell, and trade in the classified section
  • Chat with Local gun shops, ranges, trainers & other businesses
  • Discover free outdoor shooting areas
  • View up to date on firearm-related events
  • Share photos & video with other members
  • ...and so much more!
  • Status
    Not open for further replies.

    Sharpie

    Shooter
    Rating - 0%
    0   0   0
    Apr 19, 2013
    101
    16
    Why wouldn't I? The second amendment says nothing about felons.

    That's because back then, felons were generally imprisoned for an appropriate amount of time or executed, depending on their offense. Besides, the Constitution and its amendments are a framework, not the entire criminal code. You do understand that, do you not?
     

    indytechnerd

    Master
    Rating - 100%
    3   0   0
    Nov 17, 2008
    2,381
    38
    Here and There
    If any of his charges are felonies that prohibit him from owning firearms, I hope the police use the contents of his profile here to develop probable cause for being a felon in possession of firearms, then obtain a warrant and search his house.

    Fact: Emile Humbert has an extensive criminal record. One can logically assume that he is, by all accounts, a criminal.
    BUZZ! FAIL!
    Then you don't leave the house much.

    Why do you approve of this criminal owning firearms?

    Nevermind the whole 2nd Amendment thing that's been brought up to you. You're saying to check his records here for felonious possession of a firearm. That, then, would lead to the possibility that some of the good people on here either bought or sold to him under the pretense that he's a standup citizen. Would you have them arrested and charged as well?
     

    Sharpie

    Shooter
    Rating - 0%
    0   0   0
    Apr 19, 2013
    101
    16
    Nevermind the whole 2nd Amendment thing that's been brought up to you. You're saying to check his records here for felonious possession of a firearm. That, then, would lead to the possibility that some of the good people on here either bought or sold to him under the pretense that he's a standup citizen. Would you have them arrested and charged as well?

    For what? There must be probable cause that the citizen who engaged in the transaction had knowledge of the other person's prohibited status. (ie: felon) If someone here knew that he is a criminal, and sold him a firearm anyway, then YES, I would like to see them arrested and charged.

    The only "fail" is in your understanding of the law and legal procedure.
     

    jdmack79

    Grandmaster
    Rating - 100%
    12   0   0
    Aug 20, 2009
    6,549
    113
    Lawrence County
    I amended my posts on the arrests records. Before posting them initially I only skimmed them. This time I read them a little more thoroughly. Some numbers got bigger, some numbers got smaller, and a new charge was added.
     

    CountryBoy19

    Grandmaster
    Rating - 91.7%
    11   1   0
    Nov 10, 2008
    8,412
    63
    Bedford, IN
    :laugh:
    (Kind of like getting herculiner on your hootus)
    :laugh:

    Haha, I remember that one... and now finallly I'm a part of one of these epic threads that will end up all over the internet... stupid guy should have taken our advice and just shut up and deleted his post... even if it was on google's cache it wouldn't be here and it wouldn't have blown up into one of the most epic threads on the internet...

    BTW, this thread is growing at an explosive rate. Everytime I clicked to the next page the number of pages grew higher and it seemed as though I may never make it to the end to post something...
     

    perry

    Master
    Rating - 100%
    2   0   0
    Nov 18, 2010
    2,036
    63
    Fishers, IN
    I'm sure lots of folks have done silly things when they were younger. He's 31 now, so those charges from 2000 would have put him at a fairly wild age. Doesn't mean he hasn't changed and isn't an otherwise good fella these days. People on the internet can be big meanies sometimes ;)
     

    tyrajam

    Sharpshooter
    Rating - 100%
    3   0   0
    Dec 2, 2008
    554
    16
    Fishers
    I'm sure lots of folks have done silly things when they were younger. He's 31 now, so those charges from 2000 would have put him at a fairly wild age. Doesn't mean he hasn't changed and isn't an otherwise good fella these days. People on the internet can be big meanies sometimes ;)

    Yeah, people make mistakes. I don't hold it against them. My very first post on this thread was wondering why he would admit to breaking the law, driving with a suspended license, and then complain about getting arrested. THAT is the meat here, the rest is just gravy.
     

    KLB

    Grandmaster
    Rating - 100%
    5   0   0
    Sep 12, 2011
    23,953
    77
    Porter County
    That's because back then, felons were generally imprisoned for an appropriate amount of time or executed, depending on their offense. Besides, the Constitution and its amendments are a framework, not the entire criminal code. You do understand that, do you not?

    A felon that is not in jail today has server an appropriate sentence as well, as defined by today's judicial system. Since he served his time, he should be free to defend himself just as any other free citizen is. If he cannot be trusted with a weapon then he should not be free in the first place. In that case the law should be changed so that he is locked away not free on the streets.
     

    Sharpie

    Shooter
    Rating - 0%
    0   0   0
    Apr 19, 2013
    101
    16
    A felon that is not in jail today has server an appropriate sentence as well, as defined by today's judicial system. Since he served his time, he should be free to defend himself just as any other free citizen is. If he cannot be trusted with a weapon then he should not be free in the first place. In that case the law should be changed so that he is locked away not free on the streets.

    That is certainly a good argument for change in the status quo. However, we live in the world that is, not the world that we would like. The law says that certain felons are barred from possessing firearms. If Emile Humbert has been convicted of a felony that bars him from possessing a firearm, and he possesses said arms, he should be arrested and charged.

    BTW, the Constitution doesn't say anything about felons because it was established legal precedence from common law that a convicted felon loses certain rights. This is not something new. Felon disenfranchisement has roots all the way back to Greek and Roman times, and in English common law, which our system is loosely based on.

    Suggesting that felons should be able to possess arms because "the founding fathers didn't mention it" is ludicrous, and shows a complete lack of understanding about law and legal procedure.
     

    HotD

    Marksman
    Rating - 0%
    0   0   0
    Apr 22, 2013
    225
    18
    N/A
    A felon that is not in jail today has server an appropriate sentence as well, as defined by today's judicial system. Since he served his time, he should be free to defend himself just as any other free citizen is. If he cannot be trusted with a weapon then he should not be free in the first place. In that case the law should be changed so that he is locked away not free on the streets.

    A person can serve his appropriate time, and still not be trusted to possess a firearm as well. How would you suggest keeping that person from being released from incarceration, and at the same time, not violating his due process rights?
     
    Status
    Not open for further replies.
    Top Bottom