Hillary's health

[dusty88]

Well, Trump said some bad words about 11 years ago so none of this really matters.

The only part of it that really mattered anyway was her collapse in September. And yes, that is going to be forgotten with new Trump material. But he didn't just say "bad words". He explained why he gets away with being a predator. And he was 60 years old.

 

[hoosierdoc]

I love how no one believes trump's claims until they make him look badly, now suddenly he doesn't embellish, brag, inflate details, etc. is he now worth $10 billion too?

saw on FB, everyone is so pissed about his comments yet 50 shades Of grey sold 80 million copies, where a rich white guy uses his power to sexually abuse those below him. Hilarious comparison. If only trump had talked about S&m instead of kissing.

clinton cheated and got a lewinski in Oval Office while a head of state was waiting and was RE-elected as an accused rapist. Please forgive me if I laugh at the sudden liberal outrage. Lena Dunham was defended for sexually molesting her juvenile sister by the same leftists slamming trump for kissing someone.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

I love how no one believes trump's claims until they make him look badly, now suddenly he doesn't embellish, brag, inflate details, etc. is he now worth $10 billion too?

saw on FB, everyone is so pissed about his comments yet 50 shades Of grey sold 80 million copies, where a rich white guy uses his power to sexually abuse those below him. Hilarious comparison. If only trump had talked about S&m instead of kissing.

clinton cheated and got a lewinski in Oval Office while a head of state was waiting and was RE-elected as an accused rapist. Please forgive me if I laugh at the sudden liberal outrage. Lena Dunham was defended for sexually molesting her juvenile sister by the same leftists slamming trump for kissing someone.

Ah, for the good ol' days when bondage and S&M were confined to porno movies... now they're mainstream with the most attentive audience being females. So much for that argument about objectifying women, huh?

 

[churchmouse]

I love how no one believes trump's claims until they make him look badly, now suddenly he doesn't embellish, brag, inflate details, etc. is he now worth $10 billion too?

saw on FB, everyone is so pissed about his comments yet 50 shades Of grey sold 80 million copies, where a rich white guy uses his power to sexually abuse those below him. Hilarious comparison. If only trump had talked about S&m instead of kissing.

clinton cheated and got a lewinski in Oval Office while a head of state was waiting and was RE-elected as an accused rapist. Please forgive me if I laugh at the sudden liberal outrage. Lena Dunham was defended for sexually molesting her juvenile sister by the same leftists slamming trump for kissing someone.

Double standards for the elitists that are guiding the suckers

 

[jamil]

I love how no one believes trump's claims until they make him look badly, now suddenly he doesn't embellish, brag, inflate details, etc. is he now worth $10 billion too?

saw on FB, everyone is so pissed about his comments yet 50 shades Of grey sold 80 million copies, where a rich white guy uses his power to sexually abuse those below him. Hilarious comparison. If only trump had talked about S&m instead of kissing.

clinton cheated and got a lewinski in Oval Office while a head of state was waiting and was RE-elected as an accused rapist. Please forgive me if I laugh at the sudden liberal outrage. Lena Dunham was defended for sexually molesting her juvenile sister by the same leftists slamming trump for kissing someone.

I agree it's a double standard. Bill Clinton should be ridiculed at least as much as Trump, and Hillary along with him. But the issue isn't Trump just kissing women. It's that he feels entitled to it regardless of how they feel about it. I don't go around forcing myself on whatever woman I think is hot. Why is that okay if he's the guy I want to be president? I'd like to see the Trumpers admitting that is a horrible character flaw. Instead they're just defending him and marginalizing what he did. Why? Is it okay to go around grabbing any woman's *****? Who does that? Non-celebrities go to jail for that kind of thing.

 

[jamil]

Ah, for the good ol' days when bondage and S&M were confined to porno movies... now they're mainstream with the most attentive audience being females. So much for that argument about objectifying women, huh?

Sexual fantasies are an individual thing and are an issue of consent. Trump sees a beautiful woman and just thinks he can do what he wants, whether it is her fantasy or not.

 

[KG1]

It is a character flaw for sure. No doubt about it.

 

[BugI02]

I agree it's a double standard. Bill Clinton should be ridiculed at least as much as Trump, and Hillary along with him. But the issue isn't Trump just kissing women. It's that he feels entitled to it regardless of how they feel about it. I don't go around forcing myself on whatever woman I think is hot. Why is that okay if he's the guy I want to be president? I'd like to see the Trumpers admitting that is a horrible character flaw. Instead they're just defending him and marginalizing what he did. Why? Is it okay to go around grabbing any woman's *****? Who does that? Non-celebrities go to jail for that kind of thing.

Dude, neverTrump and the other Clinton enablers have been shopping every controversy related to Trump that came along. The 20th time that people, who we know would do anything to damage Trump, develop a case of the vapors it just doesn't move the needle.

Yeah, he should have outgrown that talk in high school or at least in college. Yeah, it might have something/everything to do with his repeated failure to develop a deep and stable relationship with any of his wives. Yeah, if he groped my wife he would need those bodyguards.

But it JUST. DOESN'T. CHANGE. THE. CALCULUS. OF. THIS. ELECTION.

From where I stand, it has become an obsession for neverTrump. They've been shown they are weak and powerless and their opprobrium means nothing to a significant swathe of conservative america

In order to prove that 'the new phonebook is here' and that they're somebody who still matters, they have made common cause with the enemies of freedom. They wish to take down Trump at all costs

Do they think that that betrayal, even arguably treason, will just be forgotten. Have they not mused upon why those of similar intent are still referred to as Benedict Arnolds or Quislings

Do they no longer see the difference between fame and infamy

 

[spec4]

As I see it, it's not like he is just walking up to attractive women and feeling them up. IANAL but I think they call that aggravated sexual assault or something equally wrong. My take is the women send him signals (flirt) that he, like most males, homes in on. Albeit perhaps a little too strong in cases.

Think of how the libs defended Clinton in the 90's. I'll always remember Bill Press being irate on TV (Crossfire) saying "it's just about sex".

 

[dusty88]

Are there people here actually doing the "2 wrongs make a right" thing? Or are some of you just mad about the double standard? I share the latter, not the former.

 

[printcraft]

Blatant double standard.

 

[KittySlayer]

Stand by your man (or woman).

...But the issue isn't [STRIKE]Trump[/STRIKE] Bill just kissing women. It's that [STRIKE]he[/STRIKE] Bill [STRIKE]feels entitled to[/STRIKE] actually does it regardless of how [STRIKE]they[/STRIKE] Juanita, Kathleen, Paula, Monica... feel about it. I don't go around forcing myself on whatever woman I think is hot. Why is that okay if he's the guy [STRIKE]I want to be president[/STRIKE] that was elected as President twice? I'd like to see the [STRIKE]Trumpers[/STRIKE] Clintons admitting that is a horrible character flaw. Instead they're just defending [STRIKE]him[/STRIKE] Bill and marginalizing what he did. Why? Because they're the Clintons. Is it okay to go around grabbing any woman's *****? Yes, if you are a Clinton. Who does that? The Clintons. Non-[STRIKE]celebrities[/STRIKE]Clintons go to jail for that kind of thing and not safeguarding state secrets.

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[jamil]

Dude, neverTrump and the other Clinton enablers have been shopping every controversy related to Trump that came along. The 20th time that people, who we know would do anything to damage Trump, develop a case of the vapors it just doesn't move the needle.

Yeah, he should have outgrown that talk in high school or at least in college. Yeah, it might have something/everything to do with his repeated failure to develop a deep and stable relationship with any of his wives. Yeah, if he groped my wife he would need those bodyguards.

But it JUST. DOESN'T. CHANGE. THE. CALCULUS. OF. THIS. ELECTION.

From where I stand, it has become an obsession for neverTrump. They've been shown they are weak and powerless and their opprobrium means nothing to a significant swathe of conservative america

In order to prove that 'the new phonebook is here' and that they're somebody who still matters, they have made common cause with the enemies of freedom. They wish to take down Trump at all costs

Do they think that that betrayal, even arguably treason, will just be forgotten. Have they not mused upon why those of similar intent are still referred to as Benedict Arnolds or Quislings

Do they no longer see the difference between fame and infamy

I don't doubt your perception from where you stand. But, I'm sure you realize I don't think you're looking at things realistically.

I don't know where you get this idea of "obsession" from. I think Trumpers are as obsessed about him as you think nevertrumpers are against him. Nevertrumpers are just people who don't see Trump as the savior of America like you do, and they voice their opinions about him and support those opinions with examples of Trump's behavior. How can you reasonably conclude that they have committed some kind of betrayal, or treason? Listen to yourself. Treason? Really? C'mon Bug.

Maybe you feel betrayed because you think the people who don't want Trump should be ideologically similar to you, and they are therefore betraying you because they don't think about Trump what you do. I'm just not a Trumper. Aint goona happen. Never was gonna happen. There is little that appeals to me about him. There was a time I thought I could pragmatically vote for him for the sake of SCOTUS, but he has convinced me he's just not serious. As for your conclusions about people like me, the world isn't ever just a simple dichotomy. You can't rightly say that because I don't like Trump that I must like Hillary. That simply does not follow.

 

[jamil]

Stand by your man (or woman).



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I can condemn both. I have, in fact. I often pointed out to david890 when he deflected criticisms against Hillary or Democrats by invoking "but Bush..." How is this any different? By criticizing Trump for his behavior, I am not condoning Clinton's behavior. Clinton's behavior does not absolve Trump for his. It's not like Trump should now get a free pass because Clinton did it too. They are both culpable, and Hillary Clinton is too as an enabler. I am appalled by the media that they have erected (see what I did there?) a double standard to judge these candidates. If it is reprehensible for one it is reprehensible for the other.

 

[Vigilant]

Checking back to see if she's dead yet?

 

[KG1]

Checking back to see if she's dead yet?

Nope. We didn't win the lottery.

 

[spec4]

Lotto odds that she will expire prior to the election. IMO the better odds will be an impeachment before her term expires. Of course, that assumes a GOP Senate.

 

[JTScribe]

Lotto odds that she will expire prior to the election. IMO the better odds will be an impeachment before her term expires. Of course, that assumes a GOP Senate.

They've bent over backward for Obama, why in the world would they stand up to her?

 

[OakRiver]

They've bent over backward for Obama, why in the world would they stand up to her?

Because of the War on Women

 

[Vigilant]

He the house fallen on her yet? Auntie Em is asking?