Hearing set for same-sex wedding cake dispute in Oregon

[ArcadiaGP]

Here's the paragraph where Oregon's Labor Commissioner, Brad Avakian, ordered the cease and desist.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Makes me sad. Some day this holiday will only be a day we get off work. Maybe.

No, they will flood us with enough new holidays to break even on the numbers featuring progressive events and personages.

 

[cobber]

Please remind us of your spirited defense of the 1st A when your​ ox is being gored.

 

[KG1]

Please remind us of your spirited defense of the 1st A when your​ ox is being gored.

1st Amendment right's...*Phfttt* I fart in your general direction.

 

[DanSwanky]

Two "same sex" threads top the list of what people on here are talking about. Seems like wasted energy to me.

 

[KG1]

Two "same sex" threads top the list of what people on here are talking about. Seems like wasted energy to me.

It's about much more than the "same sex" issue. Sorry you can't see that.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Two "same sex" threads top the list of what people on here are talking about. Seems like wasted energy to me.

It's about much more than the "same sex" issue. Sorry you can't see that.

Exactly. It isn't about the sex, it is about having to make special accommodations against one's convictions in deference to someone who is demanding those accommodations based on behavior rather than any reasonable cause. The problem is the destruction of everyone else's right to not be forced to violate their own consciences. As it stands right now, it would seem that there are only three choices is a situation like the wedding cake incident: Refuse and lose everything you have ever worked for, violate your own beliefs under duress, or kill the MFSBs and hope you don't get caught, which, incidentally, is the only chance you have of making a clean break from a situation you have forced upon you.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

Here's the paragraph where Oregon's Labor Commissioner, Brad Avakian, ordered the cease and desist.

So where does it say they can't speak out about the court case, about their thoughts on gay marriage, etc. etc?

Looks to me like they are still free to do so. What they can't do is put a sign up that says "this business won't serve gays" or the like.

 

[IndyDave1776]

So where does it say they can't speak out about the court case, about their thoughts on gay marriage, etc. etc?

Looks to me like they are still free to do so. What they can't do is put a sign up that says "this business won't serve gays" or the like.

My guess is that the broad inclusion of any form of communication in tandem with the "any discrimination" could be interpreted very broadly even if not presented as a gag order per se.

 

[miguel]

http://thefederalist.com/2015/07/06/judge-to-bakers-no-free-speech-for-you/

It's not a culture war, it's a balloon parade.

[video=youtube;I2Bi9hK_GR4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2Bi9hK_GR4[/video]

 

[2A_Tom]

Two "same sex" threads top the list of what people on here are talking about. Seems like wasted energy to me.

It's about much more than the "same sex" issue. Sorry you can't see that.

Exactly. It isn't about the sex, it is about having to make special accommodations against one's convictions in deference to someone who is demanding those accommodations based on behavior rather than any reasonable cause. The problem is the destruction of everyone else's right to not be forced to violate their own consciences. As it stands right now, it would seem that there are only three choices is a situation like the wedding cake incident: Refuse and lose everything you have ever worked for, violate your own beliefs under duress, or kill the MFSBs and hope you don't get caught, which, incidentally, is the only chance you have of making a clean break from a situation you have forced upon you.

Churches will never be forced to perform same sex marriages., and you can keep your insurance.

 

[jamil]

Churches will never be forced to perform same sex marriages., and you can keep your insurance.

You forgot "period."

 

[KG1]

You forgot "period."

/thread

 

[Blackhawk2001]

Oregon's a beautiful state, as is Washington and Northern California, but I think perhaps non-liberals should think about building a great wall across the Cascade and Sierra Mountains and pen the progressive crazies on the west side of the wall. It's the only way the rest of us will ever be safe in our homes.

 

[2A_Tom]

Oregon's a beautiful state, as is Washington and Northern California, but I think perhaps non-liberals should think about building a great wall across the Cascade and Sierra Mountains and pen the progressive crazies on the west side of the wall. It's the only way the rest of us will ever be safe in our homes.

It is a shame that good people who desire to live in such s beautiful place have to live under such progressive leadership. There use to be a saying "America, Love it or leave it".

Now that it is transformed they will start using that against us.

 

[ArmedProgrammer]

It is a shame that good people who desire to live in such s beautiful place have to live under such progressive leadership. There use to be a saying "America, Love it or leave it".

Now that it is transformed they will start using that against us.

11 + years ago, me and my business, left...

I've not regretted it.

 

[Blackhawk2001]

Unfortunately, once they make their states unlivable, the libs move to more conservative states and spread their crap further.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Politics: Sweet Cakes by Melissa raises more than $200,000 to cover fine by Oregon Gaystapo | Best of Cain

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Politics: Sweet Cakes by Melissa raises more than $200,000 to cover fine by Oregon Gaystapo | Best of Cain

It's nice to see there are alternatives to Go Fund Me, which banned campaigns in support of Gaystapo targets after the very successful one on behalf of Memories Pizza in Indiana. Not everyone is so easily intimidated.

QFT.

 

[jamil]

Gaystapo? yeah, I guess I can see that.