God Vs. The F Word

[Benny]

Being a gun forum Id like to see him have the same conviction of coming out about gun owners as he is about supporting the ACLU. Wouldnt you??

Fair enough...



PM him asking him to respond in this thread.

 

[Benny]

Sorry for a typo,,, is that the best you have?

The typo wasn't the problem, I just merely commented on the grammatical errors you made that most know since the first grade.



BTW, what do you mean "the best you have?" I'm not arguing with anyone...Just pointing out obvious facts.

 

[tnek]

Fair enough...



PM him asking him to respond in this thread.

He was "man" enough to come out and basically take a cheap shot at average gun owners and tried to come off as self proclaimed intellectual that was above explaining why the unwashed masses were beneath him.
He needs to explain it and if you didnt read his statement go back and do so. I dont care about the religious side of this.

 

[360]

He was "man" enough to come out and basically take a cheap shot at average gun owners and tried to come off as self proclaimed intellectual that was above explaining why the unwashed masses were beneath him.
He needs to explain it and if you didnt read his statement go back and do so. I dont care about the religious side of this.

Then get out. I think you were the reason it was closed last night. If you can't play fair, then don't play at all.

 

[tnek]

The typo wasn't the problem, I just merely commented on the grammatical errors you made that most have known since the first grade.

Give me a break. Grammer is a poor choice of weapons.

 

[tnek]

Then get out. I think you were the reason it was closed last night. If you can't play fair, then don't play at all.

Uhh,, Im not the one who took cheap shots at those who support relgious beliefs.

I just want to know how the ACLU is right on issues when they wont defend the second ammendment.
I also want to know specificly what part gun owners dont get right. Its 2 simple questions.

 

[Benny]

He was "man" enough to come out and basically take a cheap shot at average gun owners and tried to come off as self proclaimed intellectual that was above explaining why the unwashed masses were beneath him.
He needs to explain it and if you didnt read his statement go back and do so. I dont care about the religious side of this.

Then PM him and ask him to post his reply to your question.

There's no reason to keep asking over and over and over...And over.

Give me a break. Grammer is a poor choice of weapons.

Weapons for what? I'm not arguing, I'm just pointing out facts...But for future reference, if you want an adult to take your questions and statements seriously, it'd be in your best interest to talk(type) like one.

 

[360]

He's not here to participate.

 

[tnek]

Then PM him and ask him to post his reply to your question.

There's no reason to keep asking over and over and over...And over.



Weapons for what? I'm not arguing, I'm just pointing out facts...But for future reference, if you want an adult to take your questions and statements seriously, it'd be in your best interest to talk(type) like one.

Im not going to beat the horse anymore. Its sad that the guy who supports the ACLU on a gun board and questions gun owners gets the nod. I guess this is the same thing that got obama elected.
This thread is time I will never get back.
Have a nice Easter.

 

[Joe Williams]

Then PM him and ask him to post his reply to your question.

You keep making the same post over and over.

 

[360]

I feel a breeze...

 

[Benny]

You keep making the same post over and over.

Edit: Nevermind.

 

[smoking357]

They sound like the same dude.

And I can't slip a piece of parchment between you and a few bombastic and reactionary posters. So, what?

What is this nonsense you're presently prattling on about? You're wanting to know what I think gun owners get wrong? You can dispense with the pretense. Do you think us infallible? Do you posit us to be omniscient? In the large urban centers, we have few friends and few advocates, and we are openly and easily ridiculed. Do you feign complete surprise at why?

Let someone from Washington D.C. read this thread, indeed, this board, and apprehend how those who urge respect toward Obama and insist on the separation of church and state are treated. The stereotypes will flow.

Now, you may completely eschew any utility in cultivating our reputation with the press organs of the large urban centers, but I agree with Mark Twain who wrote: “Never pick a fight with a man who buys his ink by the barrel." Gun owners are not well served by having over half the country daily read and hear a bias against our instrument of freedom.

I counsel that we would be well served by making ourselves the leaders in championing each and every human right, regardless of whether enumerated in the Bill of Rights. The ACLU receives favorable media treatment in most press outlets. Gun owners have appeal in places where the ACLU does not. Imagine the power of marrying the two groups into an indefatigable engine of rights advocacy? How wide would our reach be, then?

Conceive the way forward.

 

[Bigum1969]

Holy .

WTF could I even add to this thread?

 

[Benny]

Holy .

WTF could I even add to this thread?

Probably not a lot...I'm not adding anything to this thread either...Just having some fun.

You keep making the same post over and over.

BTW,

Wouldn't "over and over" signify I've made it more than twice?

It's my understand that if I made a post, then made it again, it would be made over...A third time would be over and over.

***Serious question*** Am I wrong or is counting not your strong suit?

 

[evansvillethompsongunner]

This thread is the most up-tight I've seen anyone in quite some time.
Just finished dyeing some eggs.

Have a plan for next year to make some really sweet designs.
It's a secret until I'm sure it'll work, but it's still fun and should allow for seriously complex designs...

 

[theweakerbrother]

God versus the F-word? Sorry my friends, that is a false corollary.

You see, the F word's equivalent has been uttered in ancient texts far beyond that of modern time. Jeremiah is the story of a man's suffering and a series of actions he metaphorically portrays in his personal life that will allegedly occur to the city of Jerusalem. In a one-sided conversation with God, and in a pinnacle of his suffering moment(s), he screams that God has f-worded him.

The book of Job is similar to Jeremiah in that it speaks of suffering. The book of Job is not Hebrew-specific and therefore cannot be properly called a thoroughly Jewish book because it pre-dates Jewish thought. Even the name used for God in the text is generic for The Almighty and is more like an Arabic/Semitic "mythos" story that was recognized as one of the best pieces of literature ever written regarding suffering. It has the angst of Vonnegut or Salinger, the brashness of Palahniuk, and the biting wisdom-style of Dawkins. How does this tie in the f word? Job's friends attempt to convince him to tell God to eff-off so that God will return his words with a legitimate curse that will kill him.

After Jesus, a man named Paul comes around and writes a lot of letters to a lot of different places and most of them pertain to behavior and Jesus. A group of people who were slaves an idea regarding chopping off the end of a man's tillywacker when he decides to participate in the movement surrounding Jesus. Paul tells them that it is not necessary if they want to merely follow Jesus but that he himself has his tillywacker snipped. From what we can piece together from a late letter, those who were obsessed with cutting off the tips of tillywhackers did not change their mind and potential followers were turned away by the idea of cutting on their most prized possession. Paul addresses them in a scathing letter and calls them the equivalent of an effer and goes a step further by telling them that he wishes they would cut more than just their tillywacker tips off, but to remove the whole thing from the root.

Isn't the Bible fun?

It is my opinion that the Christian can remain as such even if he or she is heavily engaged in the usage of the eff word. One's freedom and ability to do something doesn't always dictate what is proper attitude for a setting. For example, if I were visiting my grandmother, I chose not to say the eff word around her. Has she heard it before and does she know what it means? Yes. Is my right available to me to say it in front of her? Yes. I chose not to do so because it is an issue of respect and love. Let's say I am playing call of duty with lawrra. I'm getting shot about every 30 seconds because I am terrible at that game. I scream the eff word and yell at my cat. I'm in my own home, no one is "hurt" by the yelling. I'm vocalizing my frustration through a mere garble of sounds. Those sounds are associated with words, images, feelings, expressions and attitudes in my brain. There is a whole psychology behind words.

I understand your frustration though. I don't agree with your perspective regarding God but I don't have to do so to see things from your perspective.

There is a school of thought that exists that states religion or faith of any variety is dangerous and offensive. Therefore, if something exists where offense or offensive is allegedly limited, religion and faith should be excluded.

My observation is this: A forum maintains itself as somewhat family friendly. Thus, by doing so, "stronger" language is banned from the forum because it is offensive to traditional family values, in American culture circa 2010CE. Someone from a different ethos steps up and a challenge is issued to those who set the rules. The challenge is that they are not offended by strong language, but by religion which is offensive to their own worldview. The plaintiff attempts to project an image of unfairness to the community that since one category of offensiveness is banned, so should the other category(ies).

That being said, I like the "look away" policy both for the forum and real life. If I don't like something and it doesn't belong to me, I look away, don't participate or don't listen to it. I'm not necessarily telling you what to do but I'm relating to what I do when I don't like something.

In regards to truth, If you're honest in your search for truth, I think you will be rewarded for it. If God doesn't exist, you're rewarded with a greater scope of knowledge for your hardwork towards honing your epistemology of how life works. If God does exist, it seems that those who go looking for him often find him. This isn't 100% of the time and that is potentially due to our preconceived notions and prejudices... I'm thinking of those who hate religion and then build up a case against it without knowing why. Conversely, the other side exists, too.

In closing:

Part of me wants to apologize for the actions of Christians have made towards you in the past. So, I can only say that I'm sorry you've had bad experiences with them. The other part of me realizes that apologizing for someone else's actions can't logically be done because there is nothing to apologize for... you can only apologize for your own actions. I can't apologize for slavery as a (mostly) white man because I've never enslaved someone. You can still feel some remorse that it happened though.

I posted in this thread, IBTL, IATL, IAT2ndL, and enjoy the rest of the weekend. Easter/Resurrection Sunday/Flying Spaghetti Monster Sauce Day/Equinox will be a beautiful day no matter what day it is.

 

[Bigum1969]

God versus the F-word? Sorry my friends, that is a false corollary.

You see, the F word's equivalent has been uttered in ancient texts far beyond that of modern time. Jeremiah is the story of a man's suffering and a series of actions he metaphorically portrays in his personal life that will allegedly occur to the city of Jerusalem. In a one-sided conversation with God, and in a pinnacle of his suffering moment(s), he screams that God has f-worded him.

The book of Job is similar to Jeremiah in that it speaks of suffering. The book of Job is not Hebrew-specific and therefore cannot be properly called a thoroughly Jewish book because it pre-dates Jewish thought. Even the name used for God in the text is generic for The Almighty and is more like an Arabic/Semitic "mythos" story that was recognized as one of the best pieces of literature ever written regarding suffering. It has the angst of Vonnegut or Salinger, the brashness of Palahniuk, and the biting wisdom-style of Dawkins. How does this tie in the f word? Job's friends attempt to convince him to tell God to eff-off so that God will return his words with a legitimate curse that will kill him.

After Jesus, a man named Paul comes around and writes a lot of letters to a lot of different places and most of them pertain to behavior and Jesus. A group of people who were slaves an idea regarding chopping off the end of a man's tillywacker when he decides to participate in the movement surrounding Jesus. Paul tells them that it is not necessary if they want to merely follow Jesus but that he himself has his tillywacker snipped. From what we can piece together from a late letter, those who were obsessed with cutting off the tips of tillywhackers did not change their mind and potential followers were turned away by the idea of cutting on their most prized possession. Paul addresses them in a scathing letter and calls them the equivalent of an effer and goes a step further by telling them that he wishes they would cut more than just their tillywacker tips off, but to remove the whole thing from the root.

Isn't the Bible fun?

It is my opinion that the Christian can remain as such even if he or she is heavily engaged in the usage of the eff word. One's freedom and ability to do something doesn't always dictate what is proper attitude for a setting. For example, if I were visiting my grandmother, I chose not to say the eff word around her. Has she heard it before and does she know what it means? Yes. Is my right available to me to say it in front of her? Yes. I chose not to do so because it is an issue of respect and love. Let's say I am playing call of duty with lawrra. I'm getting shot about every 30 seconds because I am terrible at that game. I scream the eff word and yell at my cat. I'm in my own home, no one is "hurt" by the yelling. I'm vocalizing my frustration through a mere garble of sounds. Those sounds are associated with words, images, feelings, expressions and attitudes in my brain. There is a whole psychology behind words.

I understand your frustration though. I don't agree with your perspective regarding God but I don't have to do so to see things from your perspective.

There is a school of thought that exists that states religion or faith of any variety is dangerous and offensive. Therefore, if something exists where offense or offensive is allegedly limited, religion and faith should be excluded.

My observation is this: A forum maintains itself as somewhat family friendly. Thus, by doing so, "stronger" language is banned from the forum because it is offensive to traditional family values, in American culture circa 2010CE. Someone from a different ethos steps up and a challenge is issued to those who set the rules. The challenge is that they are not offended by strong language, but by religion which is offensive to their own worldview. The plaintiff attempts to project an image of unfairness to the community that since one category of offensiveness is banned, so should the other category(ies).

That being said, I like the "look away" policy both for the forum and real life. If I don't like something and it doesn't belong to me, I look away, don't participate or don't listen to it. I'm not necessarily telling you what to do but I'm relating to what I do when I don't like something.

In regards to truth, If you're honest in your search for truth, I think you will be rewarded for it. If God doesn't exist, you're rewarded with a greater scope of knowledge for your hardwork towards honing your epistemology of how life works. If God does exist, it seems that those who go looking for him often find him. This isn't 100% of the time and that is potentially due to our preconceived notions and prejudices... I'm thinking of those who hate religion and then build up a case against it without knowing why. Conversely, the other side exists, too.

In closing:

Part of me wants to apologize for the actions of Christians have made towards you in the past. So, I can only say that I'm sorry you've had bad experiences with them. The other part of me realizes that apologizing for someone else's actions can't logically be done because there is nothing to apologize for... you can only apologize for your own actions. I can't apologize for slavery as a (mostly) white man because I've never enslaved someone. You can still feel some remorse that it happened though.

I posted in this thread, IBTL, IATL, IAT2ndL, and enjoy the rest of the weekend. Easter/Resurrection Sunday/Flying Spaghetti Monster Sauce Day/Equinox will be a beautiful day no matter what day it is.

I'd rep this post 12 times if I could.

 

[Benny]

I'd rep this post 12 times if I could.

Well, you and I make 2...Only 10 to go.

 

[Bigum1969]

Well, you and I make 2...Only 10 to go.

Congrats on the new badge, btw.