Go It Alone United Kingdom!

[rob63]

FWIW, it would appear that at least this has gotten gun control out of the spotlight for now. I wonder how many libs are reading the various "sky is falling" reports and thinking that maybe they should buy a gun?

 

[ghuns]

Hmmm, that could be the one thing that would make me seriously consider leaving Indiana.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Hmmm, that could be the one thing that would make me seriously consider leaving Indiana.

That's a horrible comparison. Texas is as part of the Union, is in no way comparable to the UK as part of the EU.

 

[ghuns]

That's a horrible comparison. Texas is as part of the Union, is in no way comparable to the UK as part of the EU.

Geez, I was just imagining.

 

[jamil]

That's a horrible comparison. Texas is as part of the Union, is in no way comparable to the UK as part of the EU.

Okay. I'm finding myself agreeing with kut way more than is normal. Who hacked Kut's account? Who's posting as Kut? CM? That you?

 

[T.Lex]

The problem is, there isn't a GOOD comparison to put it in terms Americans would relate to. I think the Texas one is ok, to give a sense of what it would be like. Of course, it doesn't capture the shared history or the real relationship of nations within the EU - they aren't part of the same country.

 

[Dosproduction]

America was designed to be separate country's (states) and any of them could secede at any time. Texas is a perfect example. It is part of the United States just as Britain is part of the united Europe or as its called European Union. The right to secede at anytime was a founding principle and included in many of the original state constitutions when they joined the United States. It was the ultimate block on big government.

 

[pudly]

That's a horrible comparison. Texas is as part of the Union, is in no way comparable to the UK as part of the EU.

Okay. I'm finding myself agreeing with kut way more than is normal. Who hacked Kut's account? Who's posting as Kut? CM? That you?

Kut's statement doesn't make any sense. England was part of the European Union. Texas leaving our union would be the same. It isn't a bad comparison at all. Texas was even an independent nation at one point before voluntarily joining the US. The main difference is that, unlike the EU, the US Constitution doesn't have an explicit provision for leaving peacefully and the US has a history of extreme violence against states that do try to leave.

 

[T.Lex]

The legal relationship between England and the EU is/was fundamentally different than Texas to the US. Plus, there's the history. Been a long time since Texas waged war against another state.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

I'm glad we've come to the agreement that Vox is wrong.

But that's not hard to do.

 

[traderdan]

I may be the only one...but I am quite humored to think of some "wise" Bible teachers who are caught up in End Time Prophecy teaching...This does not fit into their pattern of thinking.

 

[T.Lex]

So. I gave credit to Trump upthread for a good policy. Now, I see he kinda messed up something rather big.

He's in Scotland. A country. Part of the UK. Which is also a country. Yes, this can be tricky. Even for a smart American businessman.

He tweeted that Scotland voted to take their country back, in the Brexit. Except they didn't. Scotland didn't. Scotland voted to remain in the EU. So, they will probably have a future vote, in which they take their country back out of England, and go back to the EU.

Trump doesn't understand.

 

[Route 45]

Kut's statement doesn't make any sense. England was part of the European Union. Texas leaving our union would be the same. It isn't a bad comparison at all. Texas was even an independent nation at one point before voluntarily joining the US. The main difference is that, unlike the EU, the US Constitution doesn't have an explicit provision for leaving peacefully and the US has a history of extreme violence against states that do try to leave.

Texas leaving the US is not remotely comparable to the UK leaving the EU. The states of the US are one nation. The EU is not. England, France, Germany, etc. all have their unique languages, histories and culture. They are different, sovereign nations. Texas is just a giant Kentucky with hotter weather and funny hats.

 

[printcraft]

So. I gave credit to Trump upthread for a good policy. Now, I see he kinda messed up something rather big.

He's in Scotland. A country. Part of the UK. Which is also a country. Yes, this can be tricky. Even for a smart American businessman.

He tweeted that Scotland voted to take their country back, in the Brexit. Except they didn't. Scotland didn't. Scotland voted to remain in the EU. So, they will probably have a future vote, in which they take their country back out of England, and go back to the EU.

Trump doesn't understand.

Well, yeah, see, they are taking their country back. It's their country, not Englands. Nuff said.

 

[srad]

So. I gave credit to Trump upthread for a good policy. Now, I see he kinda messed up something rather big.

He's in Scotland. A country. Part of the UK. Which is also a country. Yes, this can be tricky. Even for a smart American businessman.

He tweeted that Scotland voted to take their country back, in the Brexit. Except they didn't. Scotland didn't. Scotland voted to remain in the EU. So, they will probably have a future vote, in which they take their country back out of England, and go back to the EU.

Trump doesn't understand.

You're mistaken; seeing only what's right in front of your nose. Trump's thinking and commentary is five steps ahead... he's that smart. He's the Garry Kasparov of International Studies.
/purple where needed.

 

[T.Lex]

Well, yeah, see, they are taking their country back. It's their country, not Englands. Nuff said.

But... you are talking about Scotland, right? Scotland didn't vote to take their country back. In fact, last time, they voted NOT to take their country back. In 2014, they voted by a healthy margin to not be independent. In this vote, they overwhelmingly voted for the UK to stay in the EU. They did not vote to take their country back.

Trump got some fundamental facts wrong in that tweet. And, I am unsure if he understands why.

 

[printcraft]

But... you are talking about Scotland, right? Scotland didn't vote to take their country back. In fact, last time, they voted NOT to take their country back. In 2014, they voted by a healthy margin to not be independent. In this vote, they overwhelmingly voted for the UK to stay in the EU. They did not vote to take their country back.

Trump got some fundamental facts wrong in that tweet. And, I am unsure if he understands why.

Yes, but if England leaves, by default, they get their country back... from England....

 

[T.Lex]

Yes, but if England leaves, by default, they get their country back... from England....

No, not by default. There must be a referendum. The odds are good that they'll go independent, but it is not a done deal. And, it won't be because of how Scots voted in the Brexit referendum.

Trump's tweet (and frankly, his comments during his visit on the golf course) make it sound like he doesn't understand the relationship between Scotland and Britain. He used past tense "took" their country back. They just didn't.

 

[hoosierdoc]

That's a horrible comparison. Texas is as part of the Union, is in no way comparable to the UK as part of the EU.

Totally agree.

maybe Scotland leaving UK

 

[HoughMade]

I may be the only one...but I am quite humored to think of some "wise" Bible teachers who are caught up in End Time Prophecy teaching...This does not fit into their pattern of thinking.

It kinda does, depending. We've got to do some paring of the EU is it's the ten toes of mixed clay and iron....way more member states than 10 right now.