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Evansville Sued for Violating Gun Owner's Rights
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I'm all for oc and cc but gun laws are tough and it seems you have to balance the risks of freedom carry vs. completely losing the right. I just don't think "being asked" to conceal (not disarmament) should have made such a big scene.
I'm all for oc and cc but gun laws are tough and it seems you have to balance the risks of freedom carry vs. completely losing the right. I just don't think "being asked" to conceal (not disarmament) should have made such a big scene.
Do you even understand this Heinlein quote you have in your Sig??
By your logic Rosa Parks should have just given up her seat rather than make a scene, right?
That's not very nice.Do you even understand this Heinlein quote you have in your Sig??
By your logic Rosa Parks should have just given up her seat rather than make a scene, right?
If the zoo put up a sign cc only would you still go?
Some anti dude's letter got printed in the Evansville Courier this morning saying it was stupid to open carry. I'm going to respond and hope they print my letter tomorrow. At least the editorial staff hasn't written an editorial against it yet.
Yes I do, very much so and I don't even have a ltch.
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If the zoo put up a sign cc only would you still go?
jmiller676
Master
The ZOO can't put up a sign CC only
Originally Posted by Roadie 
Do you even understand this Heinlein quote you have in your Sig??
Do you even understand this Heinlein quote you have in your Sig??
Answered for me..
The laws that went into affect July 1st preclude the Zoo from doing so, hence the point of the lawsuit and this thread..
Okay, I just sent an email letter to the Courier. If someone can tell me how to attach it here I will do so.
garyindiane
Marksman
Yep what jmiller said
If it was private property they could have asked him to leave for not complying with their commands. But it is public property.
Get it yet?
jmiller676
Master
Can you just copy and paste?
Just to clarify a bit more..
"The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire."
Robert Heinlein
You don't think the Police accosting a man who is doing nothing wrong, nothing illegal, and in fact, is in a place that is legally barred from controlling the citizens use of arms, is not being "controlled" in the context of the above quote?
garyindiane
Marksman
I compare these situations to this...
Your driving along at 55mph which is the posted legal speed limit for the road you are on. Cop pulls you over and says "Sir you are driving too fast. We have had a complaint from other moterist and we think you should be driving 35mph. 55mph is just too fast in our opinion. You have to drive 35 mph because you may scare someone"
You have done nothing illegal at at but are still being harrased by LEOs trying to enforce opinion.
-Gary
Your driving along at 55mph which is the posted legal speed limit for the road you are on. Cop pulls you over and says "Sir you are driving too fast. We have had a complaint from other moterist and we think you should be driving 35mph. 55mph is just too fast in our opinion. You have to drive 35 mph because you may scare someone"
You have done nothing illegal at at but are still being harrased by LEOs trying to enforce opinion.
-Gary
I would never support anything against the right of someone to carry openly or cc. The majority are the anti's. If concealing in certain public areas where the majority roams keeps them quiet, then for pete's sake, cover it up. Balance and or co-exist is all I'm trying to say here. Like I said, don't take this wrong. It's just my view on this incident.
jmiller676
Master
"Arbitrary power is most easily established on the ruins of liberty abused to licentiousness."
George Wahington.
No, they're not. They're a very tiny, very vocal, minority of the population. If they were the majority then they'd be winning, but they're not. Others are ignorant, and we can teach them if we don't run and hide.
No but I'll write it out here.
Those complaining about Benjamin Magenheimer open carrying a pistol at the zoo need to consider a few things. Courts have held that if you are attacked at the zoo the city, county or state is not liable for damages. Second, there aren't enough police to patrol everywhere at the same time. When it comes to violent crime police respond to the scene after it is over, file a report and testify at the trial of the guy who killed you. You probably have a better chance of an armed citizen, whether concealed or open carrying, being around you if/when you are attacked. Did anyone see any police at the zoo until they were called? Did they see Mr. Magenheimer, a legally armed citizen, who would probably go out of his way to defend them also in an emergency? Most people bent on hurting someone are cowards. They attack quickly, violently and usually from behind. It might take too long for a citizen to draw from concealment to defend himself and his family. I applaud Mr. Magenheimer for his decision on how best to defend his family. Consider also that the sight of a legally carried firearm might make someone think twice about trying to snatch a purse. Don't fear an exposed firearm carried by a normal citizen. Fear the one you don't see in the pocket of the repeat violent felon walking down the street toward you at night.
