drunk officer kills motorcyclist

[Benny]

Sorry, it was my smartassedness making an appearance because a completely factally challenged statement was made.

All Datamaster instruments in Indiana are certified by the Dept of Toxicology and have to have that certification in order to be admissible in court.

Yep, the only court admissible datamaster instrument in the Indy metro area is at IU medical center. Some cops have to drive for miles just to violate someones 4th Amendment right and force them to provide a breath sample.

Wow, it must be time for bed...You even mentioned the name of the machine(instrument) in the first sentence and I didn't get it.

Somehow, I did catch on to the satire in the second sentence though.

(Yep, two "noob" smilies in one post...It must be time for bed)

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

a guy on a bike got killed by an allegedly drunk peice of sh.. the end, evidently

FIFY. The court of public opinion is now in session, the honorable ruger7722 presiding.

 

[serpicostraight]

FIFY. The court of public opinion is now in session, the honorable ruger7722 presiding.

lets make it a kangaroo court and decide on judge and jury i think that would have a better chance of getting to the truth

 

[sj kahr k40]

a guy on a bike got killed by a drunk peice of sh.. the end, evidently

I saw the video of the crash scene, do you really think 20 cops, not to mention emt's, firefighters would conspire to say this man wasn't drinking when he if fact was

I don't know what happened, all I know is that the prosecutor jumped the gun and didn't do a very good job of investigating this before filling charges, and that doesn't really surprise me

 

[theweakerbrother]

You know what I see a lot of? On both sides?

Decisions and judgments made apriori and a posteriori.

 

[IrishSon of Liberty]

They should have brought in another department for the investigation. Having it done in-house just presents too much doubt in our currently corrupt world. IMO, it makes the results as trustworthy as a Congressional Oversight Committee, or a Congressial Ethics Committee.

I say this with the upmost respect for all officers of the law, as I come from a family of officers. However, when you have been entrusted to "police your own", then at least try to find someone that gives the impression of impartiality and justice to conduct the investigation.

With all of the changes that have taken place, especially the fiasco of merging the two departments, this was just another very poor decision in a string of many.

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

You know what I see a lot of? On both sides?

Decisions and judgments made apriori and a posteriori.

I had to look those terms up.

 

[serpicostraight]

I had to look those terms up.

let me know what you found out

 

[ATM]

I'm pretty sure the second one is French for "out of your buttocks".

 

[ruger7722]

someone forgets a man died.judge ruger says think about his family.frank & berry ha ha.sure are some smart caring computer nerds on here

 

[j706]

Well I just got home from work and saw the news of no OWI charges. Pretty much the way I figured it would be. Now brace yourself because the driving charges are gonna be easy to defend also. The brake problems that very morning and the one skid mark at the scene are going to be big. Was the guy going a little too fast for the run? Yea probably. I think most officers with any road time will admit the same for themselves. I know I am guilty myself.

I did not and still do not think for a minute that this guy was intoxicated. The media and others jumped the gun as usual. As for the FBI investigation, the FBI has no authority in this case at all. The will be a resource only. The FBI investigates federal crimes only. A traffic crash is not a federal crime. They are being brought in to help the IMPD brass say we are doing something to the public..

This is a tragic thing to all involved. This incident is far from over IMO. Citizens skate on OWI charges all the time and no one says a word. OWI is a big money lawyer game full of stupid asinine games. Any officer that has done many OWI's will soon be frustrated with the process and avoid them like a butt whipping.

Stay tuned because it is gonna get even more interesting before it is over. One thing you can bet on, the city of Indpls. is going to be paying out some $$$$$

 

[SSGSAD]

any idea why leo has the garrity rule and nobody else? im a truckdriver if im in a wreck no matter how how minor or whos fault im required by law to take a drug/alchohol test. why dont i have the garrity rule?

This is MY question, I have driven for 11 years, (probably longer), and
no matter what, I have to go pee, before anything else.....

 

[j706]

This is MY question, I have driven for 11 years, (probably longer), and
no matter what, I have to go pee, before anything else.....

Good question. I really have no idea why it wouldn't apply to you. Is it possible that it does.

 

[lovemachine]

My mom and my youngest brother work in a factory. Any time you have an accident, no matter how small, you take a **** test. Cut yourself with a knife, papercut size, you take a **** test. Doesn't matter.

 

[MinuteMan47]

My mom and my youngest brother work in a factory. Any time you have an accident, no matter how small, you take a **** test. Cut yourself with a knife, papercut size, you take a **** test. Doesn't matter.

Normally, if you have to go to the doctor or hospital for a "work related injury" then it's a given you will be tested. I've known guys who have toughed it out (cuts, goose eggs, and one got a piece of metal in his eye) just because they probably knew they were going to **** dirty.

Actually, on second thought...the guy with metal in his eye went to the doctor, but he paid out of his own pocket and said it happened at home.

 

[Fargo]

As for the FBI investigation, the FBI has no authority in this case at all. The will be a resource only. The FBI investigates federal crimes only. A traffic crash is not a federal crime. They are being brought in to help the IMPD brass say we are doing something to public..

I think you need to look into deprivation of civil rights under color of law prosecuted as a criminal action before you get too sure that the Feds are only there for show.

Remember, we are talking about an agent of the state acting in his official capacity killing someone as well as a possible cover-up by other agents of the state. If you think there is no possible federal criminal liability, I would think again.

Federal Bureau of Investigation - Civil Rights - Color of Law

Joe

 

[E5RANGER375]

I think you need to look into deprivation of civil rights under color of law prosecuted as a criminal action before you get too sure that the Feds are only there for show.

Remember, we are talking about an agent of the state acting in his official capacity killing someone as well as a possible cover-up by other agents of the state. If you think there is no possible federal criminal liability, I would think again.

Federal Bureau of Investigation - Civil Rights - Color of Law

Joe

yep, and they already know their way around IMPD.

 

[deer hunter]

I have not read this entire thread. If I post something that has already been said I am sorry. Under state law, the drivers that are involved in a fatal accident have to submit to a blood test for intoxication. Was this not done in this case?

 

[IndyMonkey]

I have not read this entire thread.

From your post I would guess that you havent read any of it.

 

[j706]

I think you need to look into deprivation of civil rights under color of law prosecuted as a criminal action before you get too sure that the Feds are only there for show.

Remember, we are talking about an agent of the state acting in his official capacity killing someone as well as a possible cover-up by other agents of the state. If you think there is no possible federal criminal liability, I would think again.

Federal Bureau of Investigation - Civil Rights - Color of Law

Joe

Nope does not apply. They are there for show only.