Do you OC guys/gals take extra (self defense) training

[jeremy]

Yeah, I know. Trust me when I say this is one tangent better left alone.

To be honest if it was not for the Military, I would have probably never took any Hand To Hand fighting training...

 

[Hayseed_40]

It is something about the phrase Back Door Entrance she doe not like...

I think...

Why? Everybody's got one. I have one my current house, had one on the house before that, and before that, and I even have one on my office. I do not get it...

 

[jeremy]

Why? Everybody's got one. I have one my current house, had one on the house before that, and before that, and I even have one on my office. I do not get it...

I know right?!

My Current Office has to back door entrances...

 

[jamesearljonesisscab]

Did your OP ? get answered at all

Yes thanks!
Having some bacon now.

 

[esrice]

I'm not convinced that your average citizen OCer would need it any more or less than your average CCer, but I do know that this is a commonly held opinion.

I pretty much agree with ol' ATM here, with one caveat. While I don't think an OCer should have any more or less training than a CCer, I do think that the training priorities between these two groups should be slightly different.

For example, a CCer might look for a course that includes lessons specifically on drawing from concealment. An OCer might look for a course that includes lessons on weapon retention.

Sure there can be crossover, but you need to tailor your training to your situation.

Everyone should get training.

At the end of the day, this is really the most important lesson.

 

[Hayseed_40]

Everyone should get training.

Good training will lead to better practices which will lead to better efficiency and a higher standard of preparedness which is what you will default to if and when you really need it.

I'm not convinced that your average citizen OCer would need it any more or less than your average CCer, but I do know that this is a commonly held opinion.

By who?

 

[ATM]

...Sure there can be crossover, but you need to tailor your training to your situation.

My only caveat to your caveat is that the crossover is likely greater than most tend to believe.

OCers that don't train or practice clearing cover garments (due to cold weather wear, shirt falling over gun, etc.) are in for a rude awakening one day

...as is the CCer who thought they didn't really need to train or practice retention techniques (fighting to deploy and maintain their own gun or stopping the other guy from drawing).

These are examples that should be considered fundamental to any method of defensive carry IMO.

...and it's fun!

 

[the1kidd03]

My only caveat to your caveat is that the crossover is likely greater than most tend to believe.

OCers that don't train or practice clearing cover garments (due to cold weather wear, shirt falling over gun, etc.) are in for a rude awakening one day

...as is the CCer who thought they didn't really need to train or practice retention techniques (fighting to deploy and maintain their own gun or stopping the other guy from drawing).

These are examples that should be considered fundamental to any method of defensive carry IMO.

...and it's fun!

 

[jeremy]

I leave here for a little bit just to step back into the thread and have 2 guys talking about Garments and Crossovers...

WTH!?

 

[ATM]

By who?

I've seen countless posts specifying how important retention training is if you're going to OC, as if those techniques were any more or less important for CCers.

They must believe that the visibility of our guns causes them to be grabbed from us frequently as we walk around our favorite Wal-Mart showing off.

 

[esrice]

My only caveat to your caveat is that the crossover is likely greater than most tend to believe.

I have no caveat to your caveat of my caveat.

So I agree 100%.

 

[ATM]

I have no caveat to your caveat of my caveat.

So I agree 100%.

ol' esrice is very wise.

 

[Hayseed_40]

I've seen countless posts specifying how important retention training is if you're going to OC, as if those techniques were any more or less important for CCers.

They must believe that the visibility of our guns causes them to be grabbed from us frequently as we walk around our favorite Wal-Mart showing off.

So you're saying you do show off...

 

[ATM]

So you're saying you do show off...

I'm not sure where you're getting such an outlandish idea.

That sounds like crazy talk to me.

 

[Fordtough25]

When I OC it's because I had a big gun on my side for whatever reason, and really I usually have my shirt half over it so it's more like lazy CC. Sometimes I OC because the gun I have on is too big to hide, showing off, no way. The place I have found to have the most gawkers is Wal mart by far. Who knows, but I would love to take as much training as I could in th near future. Real training anyways.

 

[iChokePeople]

I'm not sure where you're getting such an outlandish idea.

That sounds like crazy talk to me.

OC:

 

[jeremy]

OC:

I didn't know you and ATM had matching outfits...

 

[iChokePeople]

I didn't know you and ATM had matching outfits...

I'm sexy and you know it...

 

[jeremy]

I'm sexy and you know it...

Oh baby you know it...

 

[Hayseed_40]

I'm sexy and you know it...

I think he is jealous.

Is it the OC that makes you sexy or is it because you are sexy that you OC?