Democrats want to Legalize Marijuana

[DoggyDaddy]

So, what was oyur grade on that paper?

From the quote:

"I got an A+ on the paper."

 

[Hawkeye]

From the quote:

"I got an A+ on the paper."

Good for you.

 

[jamil]

I would disagree that the fabric of society is not collapsing, and further I would stipulate that the longer a state has had recreational marijuana the more advanced its state of collapse has become

Correlation is not causation but neither is it indicative of nothing

Take Colorado for example. Is the extent to which society has declined since legalizing weed due to the weed or transplanted Kalifornians? Probably both are factors.

 

[edporch]

Take Colorado for example. Is the extent to which society has declined since legalizing weed due to the weed or transplanted Kalifornians? Probably both are factors.

There's been people who smoke weed in every state for many decades of all political persuasions.
So looking at states like Colorado and other states that have shifted hard left, it's more due to the politics of the transplants moving in than weed.

A big problem is, yes, many of them move to another state to escape the over the top left wing extremism of their home state.
BUT their own politics is STILL to the left of the state they move to.

i.e. Many will still vote Democrat in their new state, but justify it by thinking the Democrats in their new state aren't as extreme as their old state, so they STILL shift the new state to the left over time.

 

[jamil]

There's been people who smoke weed in every state for many decades of all political persuasions.
So looking at states like Colorado and other states that have shifted hard left, it's more due to the politics of the transplants moving in than weed.

A big problem is, yes, many of them move to another state to escape the over the top left wing extremism of their home state.
BUT their own politics is STILL to the left of the state they move to.

i.e. Many will still vote Democrat in their new state, but justify it by thinking the Democrats in their new state aren't as extreme as their old state, so they STILL shift the new state to the left over time.

In many of these states, I suspect that homeless people ****ting on sidewalks did not become common because weed was legalized. I suspect that theft isn't rampant because weed was legalized. I suspect that depravity in general isn't increasing because weed was legalized. I think progressive policies are the chief factors in all those things.

But, I think we have to admit that legalizing weed is more common in blue states than red. So that's a more progressive policy than conservative. I can't say for sure it is not a factor in a state collapsing. Those other factors definitely are.

 

[edporch]

In many of these states, I suspect that homeless people ****ting on sidewalks did not become common because weed was legalized. I suspect that theft isn't rampant because weed was legalized. I suspect that depravity in general isn't increasing because weed was legalized. I think progressive policies are the chief factors in all those things.

But, I think we have to admit that legalizing weed is more common in blue states than red. So that's a more progressive policy than conservative. I can't say for sure it is not a factor in a state collapsing. Those other factors definitely are.

Certainly I agree that there's a greater chance of more lenient marijuana laws in Democrat run states.

 

[BugI02]

Take Colorado for example. Is the extent to which society has declined since legalizing weed due to the weed or transplanted Kalifornians? Probably both are factors.

California has had recreational crutch the longest, so according to my theory they will be the most debased. If Californians are ruining Colorado, it just is further proof of my contention

 

[BugI02]

In many of these states, I suspect that homeless people ****ting on sidewalks did not become common because weed was legalized. I suspect that theft isn't rampant because weed was legalized. I suspect that depravity in general isn't increasing because weed was legalized. I think progressive policies are the chief factors in all those things.

Is it somehow beyond the realm of possibility that widespread recreational use of weed lulls its adherents into a torpor or stupor that allows uber progressive policies to take root for lack of functional opposition?

But, I think we have to admit that legalizing weed is more common in blue states than red. So that's a more progressive policy than conservative. I can't say for sure it is not a factor in a state collapsing. Those other factors definitely are.

 

[I Invented the Internet]

Why is it that previously red states turn blue over time, but never the other way around?

 

[BugI02]

Communist 5th columnists

 

[KellyinAvon]

Why is it that previously red states turn blue over time, but never the other way around?

The South-East used to be blue...

 

[Ziggidy]

What's Wrong with Marijuana? | PragerU

Millions of Americans believe marijuana relieves pain, reduces anxiety, improves your mood, and has no side effects. Are they right? Dr. Drew Pinsky,…

www.prageru.com

 

[jedi]

What's Wrong with Marijuana? | PragerU

Millions of Americans believe marijuana relieves pain, reduces anxiety, improves your mood, and has no side effects. Are they right? Dr. Drew Pinsky,…

www.prageru.com

Can't find the article but the REASON weed became "evil" in the US was because .gov had too many g-men at the end of the gangster era and prohibition and needed a new "enemy" was needed to keep all those g-men busy.

Thus make a plant evil.
Then years later start the war on drugs with no intention of every winning it. After all too much money to be made "fighting" the war on drugs.

 

[edporch]

Can't find the article but the REASON weed became "evil" in the US was because .gov had too many g-men at the end of the gangster era and prohibition and needed a new "enemy" was needed to keep all those g-men busy.

Thus make a plant evil.
Then years later start the war on drugs with no intention of every winning it. After all too much money to be made "fighting" the war on drugs.

The man behind the marijuana ban for all the wrong reasons

Long before Richard Nixon declared the "war on drugs," there was a man named Harry Anslinger who started it all

www.cbsnews.com

 

[jedi]

THANK YOU!!!
it's never been about "public saefty".
It's always will be about money and power.

 

[Grinderman]

Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence

Almost everything you think you know about the health effects of cannabis, almost everything advocates and the media have told you for a generation, is wrong.

imprimis.hillsdale.edu

Interestingly, my wife was a psych nurse for almost 2 decades and can vouch for everything said in the posted link.

I didn't care about legalization for years, was almost for it even though it was never my thing. I used to say that I had never seen someone smoke a joint and go get into a fight.
I constantly got the reply during conversations, that the younger people using were having mental breakdowns, from my wife. This would open up excessive use of other drugs to self medicate. They whole "gateway" scenario is real.

One of the issues is that today's marijuana is not Willie Nelson going into his back yard to pick and dry out a leaf to smoke. Today's pot is mostly hydroponically grown and genetically engineered.
THC was typically less than 5% in naturally grown weed, but today the average is above 20%. This was verified for me by an ISP member I met through some mutual friends. There have been reports of the THC being much higher in some samples. There is no real medical data of the affects of THC in those concentrations on the human body.

Young people, whose minds are still developing, are literally smoking themselves into mental breakdowns and in many cases become violent during those psychotic episodes.

Maybe we should stop getting data from those who want to push medical marijuana with the end game of legalized recreational use, as was admitted publicly by those associations, and start listening to the doctors and nurses that are treating the patients when they eventually have a mental health crisis. The lobbyists/ pushers are like big pharma, they want it recreational so they can cash in on the big payday.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Young people, whose minds are still developing, are literally smoking themselves into mental breakdowns and in many cases become violent during those psychotic episodes.

Cool, now do social media...

 

[foszoe]

Cool, now do social media...

That's off topic for this thread. Its kinda like ke saying. Now do HOAs.

Social media sucks!

People who don't believe anything believe everything on social media.

It's dehumanizing.

I used to think TV was the downfall of our society but at least it only makes you slothful and fills your head full of sin. It was passive.

Social media is like a virus that spreads uncontrollably instantaneously and gets people to form large parasitic groups it is actively tearing apart society.

Instead of focus on neighbor and community and local politics where change can still be had, it keeps us talking endless about what's happening far away and stirs anger and hatred for people we've never met.

I used to have difficulty understanding how a person, especially a Christian, could watch much TV and claim it is not contra scripture.

I now feel the same about social media.

From a Christian perspective...

Showing me how you keep up with friends and family doesn't offset bearing false witness, spreading lies and deceit. Committing murder.

But the biggest issue I have is....what you watched on the TV...mostly affected you.

Social media makes it so easy to cause your brother to stumble. That's dangerous territory.

Ultimately TV. Social media..are just like guns....just tools. Nothing inherently evil about them.

At least we KNOW how deadly a firearm is so we have rules. However we still argue some about those.

Social media is more deadly for one who fears not who can kill the body but rather destroy the soul yet we delude ourselves into believing that some mhow what we are doing is OK and thus call good evil and evil good.


Did I do OK @DoggyDaddy? I didn't plan it out like one of my religious forum posts.

I did it spontaneously.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

That's off topic for this thread. Its kinda like ke saying. Now do HOAs.

Social media sucks!

People who don't believe anything believe everything on social media.

It's dehumanizing.

I used to think TV was the downfall of our society but at least it only makes you slothful and fills your head full of sin. It was passive.

Social media is like a virus that spreads uncontrollably instantaneously and gets people to form large parasitic groups it is actively tearing apart society.

Instead of focus on neighbor and community and local politics where change can still be had, it keeps us talking endless about what's happening far away and stirs anger and hatred for people we've never met.

I used to have difficulty understanding how a person, especially a Christian, could watch much TV and claim it is not contra scripture.

I now feel the same about social media.

From a Christian perspective...

Showing me how you keep up with friends and family doesn't offset bearing false witness, spreading lies and deceit. Committing murder.

But the biggest issue I have is....what you watched on the TV...mostly affected you.

Social media makes it so easy to cause your brother to stumble. That's dangerous territory.

Ultimately TV. Social media..are just like guns....just tools. Nothing inherently evil about them.

At least we KNOW how deadly a firearm is so we have rules. However we still argue some about those.

Social media is more deadly for one who fears not who can kill the body but rather destroy the soul yet we delude ourselves into believing that some mhow what we are doing is OK and thus call good evil and evil good.


Did I do OK @DoggyDaddy? I didn't plan it out like one of my religious forum posts.

I did it spontaneously.

You did fine, but I wasn't even thinking along those lines so much as I was about kids being "bullied" by their peers (people they do know), and parents allowing it to go on. Then those same kids often go on to commit suicide or seek "revenge" by shooting up a school, etc..

 

[KellyinAvon]

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