Daylight Saving Time

[actaeon277]

They do if their shift is 8 to 5.

shift workers day shift, and shift workers day shift don't have to line up.
Day shift doesn't have to get there to relieve a grumpy midnight guy.
And day shift doesn't have to wait for his relief coming in late.

 

[cg21]

Anyone arguing against changing clocks is obviously a heathen of the night. Have fun at your devil meeting.

 

[actaeon277]

Anyone arguing against changing clocks is obviously a heathen of the night. Have fun at your devil meeting.

okay. that was funny

 

[foszoe]

They do if their shift is 8 to 5.

Just make it 7-4! Fixed!

 

[foszoe]

With us, different groups worked different hours.
but within that group.. it was pretty well set. If you wanted to come in an hour early, okay. But, you're only paid for the 8, and your relief is still showing up at his time.
And no leaving till your relief was there.

Our shifts are 5-5 but must stay until relieved.

 

[actaeon277]

Our shifts are 5-5 but must stay until relieved.

Then that's a shift.

Day shift guys are days only, have no relief.
Guys calibrating equipment, payroll, many of the labs, etc.


Though I guess you could have 5 to 5, and you ONLY work 5a to 5p. So I guess then you're 'day shift'.

 

[nonobaddog]

shift workers day shift, and shift workers day shift don't have to line up.
Day shift doesn't have to get there to relieve a grumpy midnight guy.
And day shift doesn't have to wait for his relief coming in late.

Not sure where you are talking about but in the hospital here...
Day shift does have to get there to relieve midnight shift.
And day shift does have to wait for his relief coming in late.

They have shift overlap to allow for patient assessment updates and change documentation.

 

[actaeon277]

Not sure where you are talking about but in the hospital here...
Day shift does have to get there to relieve midnight shift.
And day shift does have to wait for his relief coming in late.

They have shift overlap to allow for patient assessment updates and change documentation.

If you work 5a to 5p ONLY, then I guess you are a shifter.

But, if I worked one week of 'day shift', I was still a shifter. Because it was only one week out of 3.
But A LOT of workers were day shift at the mill. They did the admin and such. There were a LOT of them.
They would complain about making less per hour than shifters, but they were told, if you want the $$$, then go on shift.

 

[foszoe]

Then that's a shift.

Day shift guys are days only, have no relief.
Guys calibrating equipment, payroll, many of the labs, etc.


Though I guess you could have 5 to 5, and you ONLY work 5a to 5p. So I guess then you're 'day shift'.

We rotate through on a 6 week rotation

 

[nonobaddog]

Just make it 7-4! Fixed!

That would mean the 4-1 shift would have to be changed to 3-12 and the 12-9 shift would have to be changed to 11-8. This is bound to cause problems for some of the hundreds or maybe thousands of people involved so replacements would have to be hired and trained. It is not as simple as you want to make it sound.

 

[actaeon277]

We rotate through on a 6 week rotation

Then you're a shifter. You sometimes operate on days, just as one shift in a group.


I had 12 hour shifts sometimes. They sucked.
7 days a week, 12 hours per day. Good for the paycheck. Bad for everything else.
Was attending college through several of those. 7pm to 7am. Then 2 college classes during the day (in my 30s).

Was able to convince management it would work better giving us Sunday off.
Course, that was in a different facility.
But, besides cutting grass and other house stuff, us single guys had to cook food and wash clothes.
Which they don't care about.

 

[foszoe]

That would mean the 4-1 shift would have to be changed to 3-12 and the 12-9 shift would have to be changed to 11-8. This is bound to cause problems for some of the hundreds or maybe thousands of people involved so replacements would have to be hired and trained. It is not as simple as you want to make it sound.

Temporary inconveniences. Definitely not insurmountable. Doesn't look like any of them have the issue mike was describing of an 8-5 shift that doesn't get an hour of daylight anyway. So just leave them be. No need to change any of those shifts.

 

[foszoe]

Then you're a shifter. You sometimes operate on days, just as one shift in a group.


I had 12 hour shifts sometimes. They sucked.
7 days a week, 12 hours per day. Good for the paycheck. Bad for everything else.
Was attending college through several of those. 7pm to 7am. Then 2 college classes during the day (in my 30s).

Was able to convince management it would work better giving us Sunday off.
Course, that was in a different facility.
But, besides cutting grass and other house stuff, us single guys had to cook food and wash clothes.
Which they don't care about.

We go 4 nights one week, 3 days and 3 nights 2nd week, 4 days 3rd week. Off 4th week. 32 hour 4 8's on days for relief 5th week but we usually vacation that week of getting 2 weeks off for 32 hours. Then a 40 hour training 6th week 5-8s. In summer usually vacation 1 or 2 off for 3 weeks off.

If you do the math it averages to 40 hours/week over the 6 week stretch

 

[actaeon277]

We go 4 nights one week, 3 days and 3 nights 2nd week, 4 days 3rd week. Off 4th week. 32 hour 4 8's on days for relief 5th week but we usually vacation that week of getting 2 weeks off for 32 hours. Then a 40 hour training 6th week 5-8s. In summer usually vacation 1 or 2 off for 3 weeks off.

If you do the math it averages to 40 hours/week over the 6 week stretch

Unfortunately, when I had retired, I was averaging 60 hours per week, for years.

 

[nonobaddog]

Temporary inconveniences. Definitely not insurmountable. Doesn't look like any of them have the issue mike was describing of an 8-5 shift that doesn't get an hour of daylight anyway. So just leave them be. No need to change any of those shifts.

You were the one that suggested the foolishness of changing the shifts.

Just make it 7-4! Fixed!

 

[foszoe]

You were the one that suggested the foolishness of changing the shifts.

I have also said 8-5 several times.

 

[nonobaddog]

They do if their shift is 8 to 5.

Just make it 7-4! Fixed!

That would mean the 4-1 shift would have to be changed to 3-12 and the 12-9 shift would have to be changed to 11-8. This is bound to cause problems for some of the hundreds or maybe thousands of people involved so replacements would have to be hired and trained. It is not as simple as you want to make it sound.

Temporary inconveniences. Definitely not insurmountable. Doesn't look like any of them have the issue mike was describing of an 8-5 shift that doesn't get an hour of daylight anyway. So just leave them be. No need to change any of those shifts.

You were the one that suggested the foolishness of changing the shifts.

I have also said 8-5 several times.

I don't see any sense in what you are saying.

 

[Ingomike]

try putting together a softball team or any group of people for an activity.

This is like herding cats for sure…

 

[foszoe]

I don't see any sense in what you are saying.

You seldom have in the past so I wasn't expecting you to now.

 

[Ingomike]

We always played softball under lights anyway.

The point was work schedule not if there were lights.