Court Rules Bump Stocks Are Not Machine Guns

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  • JAL

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    There's some debate about whether the Las Vegas shooter used his bump stocks. He had an arsenal of AR's in the adjoining rooms. Nevertheless he poured out bullets at a very high rate, the estimate of which is hard to establish with the reflections of sounds off the glass paneled high rises all around the venue. Some of them failed after overheating from excessive rate of fire. In the end, it doesn't matter if he did or not and it's likely we'll never know what's more important, the wacko's motives.

    The Dissent comment about him using "commonly available semiautomatic rifles" will definitely be quoted/cited in the future 2A court filings, although it's not binding.
     

    DadSmith

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    The high court ruled 6 to 3 along ideological lines in favor of Michael Cargill, a gun store owner who challenged the ban. Justice Clarence Thomas wrote the majority opinion.

    “A semiautomatic rifle equipped with a bump stock does not fire more than one shot ‘by a single function of the trigger,” Thomas wrote. “With or without a bump stock, a shooter must release and reset the trigger between every shot.”
     

    Bluedragon

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    The high court ruled 6 to 3 along ideological lines in favor of Michael Cargill, a gun store owner who challenged the ban. Justice Clarence Thomas wrote the majority opinion.

    “A semiautomatic rifle equipped with a bump stock does not fire more than one shot ‘by a single function of the trigger,” Thomas wrote. “With or without a bump stock, a shooter must release and reset the trigger between every shot.”
    I wonder how this will affect forced reset triggers.
     

    Floivanus

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    There's some debate about whether the Las Vegas shooter used his bump stocks. He had an arsenal of AR's in the adjoining rooms. Nevertheless he poured out bullets at a very high rate, the estimate of which is hard to establish with the reflections of sounds off the glass paneled high rises all around the venue. Some of them failed after overheating from excessive rate of fire. In the end, it doesn't matter if he did or not and it's likely we'll never know what's more important, the wacko's motives.

    The Dissent comment about him using "commonly available semiautomatic rifles" will definitely be quoted/cited in the future 2A court filings, although it's not binding.
    Some debate? FOIA’d documents from BATFE said that room had “illegally possessed prohibited firearms” in it, LONG BEFORE bump fire stocks were “reclassified” as machineguns.

    Same thing with the FOIA’d information about San Beenadino being an M16.
     

    DragonGunner

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    Count me in.

    Trump+McConnell = Barrettt+Kavanaugh+Gorsuch + 231 federal appeal and district court judges = Bruen + Bumpstock ruling + 2A lowercourt rulings.

    Seriously, the bumpstock rule was a lesser political pandering restriction that turned into a bat to smack the ATF on the head with.

    To borrow a saying,
    If you don’t vote for Trump47 you ain’t 2A.
    This is worth looking at. Many didn’t vote Trump because of his ignorant statement “that’s the end of bump stocks.”. However Trumps 4D chess actually checkmated himself when he was in total error. This is a good outcome.
     

    Destro

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    Count me in.

    Trump+McConnell = Barrettt+Kavanaugh+Gorsuch + 231 federal appeal and district court judges = Bruen + Bumpstock ruling + 2A lowercourt rulings.

    Seriously, the bumpstock rule was a lesser political pandering restriction that turned into a bat to smack the ATF on the head with.

    To borrow a saying,
    If you don’t vote for Trump47 you ain’t 2A.
    This is a dangerous take for the RKBA.
     

    bgcatty

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    The dissenting justices simply can’t read English and had no idea whatsoever about how bump stocks work and don’t work. No matter what, each shot requires the “pulling” of the trigger with a bump stock. The bump stock only speeds up the pulling of the trigger; a concept the dissenters just don’t understand.
    The dissenters just wanted the prohibition to stay in place so that in their utopian view of the future they could ban all semiautomatic weapons.
    And the constitution be damned in their view! :ar15:
     

    Knights1776

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    Great to hear this was struck down. I really hope SCOTUS picks up Assault Weapons and High Capacity Magazine bans next. The sooner the better, need some relief for our friends behind enemy lines.
     

    Alamo

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    This is a dangerous take for the RKBA.
    A dangerous take for the RKBA is pissing and moaning about Trump’s 2A impurities when he’s gotten us farther down the road than any previous President.

    The FPC likes to beat its chest on X about its lawsuits but those lawsuits would be going nowhere if Hillary had won.

    I would like someone who has better ingrained constitutionalist/conservative principles, a less checkered past, and fewer rough edges but that’s not who’s in the arena sweating and bleeding right now.

    We’re not voting for who gets to sit at the right hand of God. It is a political arena and no one is going to be the “perfect candidate“. You only get the exercise your principles if you win, and you better hope to God Trump wins. It doesn’t matter who the Democrats prop up against him, because if that person gets in, it’s game over.

    there is literally no one on the Republican side as anywhere near the chance to win that Trump does. I like DeSantis, but he does not have the fire to be in this battle. He might make a good candidate in 2028 after Trump has wiped all the pieces off the board.

    Or I guess you can vote for the Libertarian Partty candidate, whose political goal is to get 2% of the nationwide vote.
     
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