Coronovirus IV

[Phase2]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-reveals-taking-hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus

 

[Phase2]

 

[d.kaufman]

I like Pat Sajak. Some quality tweets in the article

https://www.westernjournal.com/celebrities-tell-americans-together-pat-sajak-different-message/

 

[JettaKnight]

It's really sad that we've gotten so political that medical treatments have sides.

 

[Tombs]

It's really sad that we've gotten so political that medical treatments have sides.

That's what happens when people decide to tolerate that level of politics.

 

[bwframe]

You'd think Nancy would be happy that the "morbidly obese" president could die at his own hand?

[video=youtube;hSns9TJe0X0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSns9TJe0X0[/video]

 

[nonobaddog]

I guess nobody told nancy that a lot of doctors are taking hydroxychloroquine themselves too.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

You'd think Nancy would be happy that the "morbidly obese" president could die at his own hand?

[video=youtube;hSns9TJe0X0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSns9TJe0X0[/video]

Surprised she can pronounce morbidly. Usually, when I’m drunk, I slur multi syllable words.


Wait, she’s not drunk? She’s this stupid sober?!


Nevermind, continue.

 

[actaeon277]

 

[Ingomike]

That's what happens when people decide to tolerate that level of politics.

This is what happens when government usurps power they should not have, largely from unconstitutional SCOTUS decisions stretching the commerce clause beyond recognition...

 

[tbhausen]

Well, I guess inquiring with my doctor about a prescription for hydroxychloroquine wasn’t such a crazy idea after all. He did of course, say no. Maybe I should ask again and assert that if it’s good enough for the president, it’s good enough for me.

Hell, maybe I should ask him if he’s taking it.

 

[Phase2]

It's really sad that we've gotten so political that medical treatments have sides.

Honestly, I can't see "we've" as appropriate here. It is almost entirely the MSM and some Democrats that treat this as a political issue.

It is more appropriate to say "they've". Their blinding hatred of anything merely associated with Trump makes them stupid.

 

[Phase2]

Well, I guess inquiring with my doctor about a prescription for hydroxychloroquine wasn’t such a crazy idea after all. He did of course, say no. Maybe I should ask again and assert that if it’s good enough for the president, it’s good enough for me.

Hell, maybe I should ask him if he’s taking it.

You might want to watch this video. It is from a series that I follow called MedCram and he has come up with a daily regimen that appears to be very solid and doesn't require any prescriptions/permissions and can't be impacted by your doctors political views. He explains what he is taking any why. It is at least as affordable as hydroxychloroquine and has a much wider range of health benefits than avoiding/minimizing the Wuhan coronavirus. The relevant section is 1:30-11:00min.
[video=youtube_share;NM2A2xNLWR4]https://youtu.be/NM2A2xNLWR4[/video]

 

[dusty88]

Honestly, I can't see "we've" as appropriate here. It is almost entirely the MSM and Democrats that treat this as a political issue.

It is more appropriate to say "they've". Their blinding hatred of anything merely associated with Trump makes them stupid.

The problem here is Trump even discussing medications in any specific way. He doesn't know what he's talking about and as a president he has an influence on people. The bully pulpit should be used wisely, not flippantly

At the very least it caused a drug shortage that was dangerous to people that actually need it.

He can certainly mention that drug trials are ongoing and that he's very hopeful that our doctors and scientists will find better treatments. Hanging his hat on one specific treatment has put him in a position where he has to claim that it has benefit, even though no scientific benefit has been found yet

 

[dusty88]

You might want to watch this video. It is from a series that I follow called MedCram and he has come up with a daily supplement/activity regimen that appears to be very solid and doesn't require any prescriptions/permissions. He explains what he is taking any why. It is at least as affordable as hydroxychloroquine and has a much wider range of health benefits than simply avoiding/minimizing the Wuhan coronavirus. The relevant section is: 1:30-11:00min.

I agree. I think that potential benefits are pretty marginal but it's a harmless protocol. Medcram hosts do a good job of being honest about what is known and unknown.

I particularly think a low dose of vitamin D is not a bad idea for people who don't get outside much, for people who have darker skin, and maybe for any of us in the winter

 

[chipbennett]

Except chipbennett already addressed that talking point four days ago about Gilead looking to make a profit on Remdesivir.

https://www.indianagunowners.com/forums/break-room/481197-coronovirus-iv-7.html#post8300042

Yes. I agree with the TDS-based opposition to hydroxychloroquine. But at the same time, Gilead is not making money on Remdesivir.

 

[chipbennett]

That doesn't address how the Gilead stock will go up and all these politicians with ties to Gilead will make money for making a political decision not based on science.

Does stock tend to go up on the basis of good PR only? I'm no expert, but it seems to me that stock price changes, on the whole, are based on earnings and profits.

What political decision not based on science are you talking about?

 

[Phase2]

The problem here is Trump even discussing medications in any specific way. He doesn't know what he's talking about and as a president he has an influence on people. The bully pulpit should be used wisely, not flippantly

At the very least it caused a drug shortage that was dangerous to people that actually need it.

He can certainly mention that drug trials are ongoing and that he's very hopeful that our doctors and scientists will find better treatments. Hanging his hat on one specific treatment has put him in a position where he has to claim that it has benefit, even though no scientific benefit has been found yet

He originally said he was "hopeful" and that doctors need to do further testing. That was not unreasonable in any way. It was the MSM/Democrats that turned it into a political football.

He has also mentioned Remdesivir (sp?) and other possible drugs, but those have not become demonized by the press.

 

[jamil]

The problem here is Trump even discussing medications in any specific way. He doesn't know what he's talking about and as a president he has an influence on people. The bully pulpit should be used wisely, not flippantly

At the very least it caused a drug shortage that was dangerous to people that actually need it.

He can certainly mention that drug trials are ongoing and that he's very hopeful that our doctors and scientists will find better treatments. Hanging his hat on one specific treatment has put him in a position where he has to claim that it has benefit, even though no scientific benefit has been found yet

Well yeah, I think this has been a problem with Trump all along. I think he says things sometimes and doesn't realize how much that may have some negative consequences. However, the media played it up to make it sound more like Trump was recommending it, rather than just being optimistic about it. It was the same thing with casting him as a racist by selectively editing his comments. So sure, he does say some things, but then those things are spun and amplified so that the media has a story to profit from.

 

[dusty88]

This is a good summary of the recent study showing a decent antibody and T-cell response to covid-19, as well as a possibility that some of us might have some immunity from similar cold viruses. It's on Facebook but it's public so you should be able to see it without a sign on

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=138837624435851&id=100553591597588