Coronovirus III

[foszoe]

I should restate my golden rule slightly...

When a question is asked, be prepared that an assumption will be made that you were making an assumption and be willing to accept the consequences.

Now do you see what I did there?

What we "know" should always be iterative based on the "knowledge" of others, new or old.

Some are willing to accept that.

I am still willing to iterate my golden rule.

Understood. I figured that if people implied motives for the question not intended, I could address those, which I have. If I don't ask questions, then I'm left with not fully knowing, or having to assume something. Maybe it's better to know nothing than to assume something, but it seems even better to me to ask and know.

 

[jamil]

When I was little, I asked my parents where my little brother came from.

It was not the answer I was expecting.

Well. Sometimes parents lie and say a stork brought you to their doorstep from the sea. I don't remember asking, but also I don't remember believing anything other than through birth.

 

[jamil]

I should restate my golden rule slightly...

When a question is asked, be prepared that an assumption will be made that you were making an assumption and be willing to accept the consequences.

Now do you see what I did there?

What we "know" should always be iterative based on the "knowledge" of others, new or old.

Some are willing to accept that.

I am still willing to iterate my golden rule.

Borrowing from another thread, that's accepting new information to update your understanding of the world. It's kinda rarer than rejecting the new information and not updating the worldview.

 

[Trigger Time]

When I was little, I asked my parents where my little brother came from.

It was not the answer I was expecting.

Did you argue for your parents or for the stork?

 

[hoosierdoc]

People are going to start rioting. These governors are idiots and tyrants.
Businesses need to open and people need to do as they please. They can't arrest, fine, or shoot all of us if we stick together.

this is the closest I've ever felt to understanding what it would take to overthrow a government

 

[T.Lex]

Did you argue for your parents or for the stork?

I was skeptical of the whole thing.

 

[terrehautian]

https://www.facebook.com/65323249091/posts/10157678196769092/?d=n

The government says churches can’t assemble in person (I say violates separation of church and state) and not a word from the anti religion crowd. The second a church tries to continue paying payroll through a government payroll, separation of church and state. So which is it? If you’re for the second separation and say they can’t get funds, then the state has no power to regulate church services. The rules the government goes by are not applied to individual situations, they are blanketed in this separation.

 

[Ziggidy]

They can't arrest, fine, or shoot all of us if we stick together.

No? Are there enough that will stick together? This pandemic tells me otherwise; at least up to this point.

 

[foszoe]

No.

You can look to this for parallels.

Yes being from WV, this matters to me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain

No? Are there enough that will stick together? This pandemic tells me otherwise; at least up to this point.

 

[HoughMade]

https://www.facebook.com/65323249091/posts/10157678196769092/?d=n

The government says churches can’t assemble in person (I say violates separation of church and state) and not a word from the anti religion crowd. The second a church tries to continue paying payroll through a government payroll, separation of church and state. So which is it? If you’re for the second separation and say they can’t get funds, then the state has no power to regulate church services. The rules the government goes by are not applied to individual situations, they are blanketed in this separation.

"Separation of church and state" is a poorly worded attempt to describe a constitutional principles....which never really meant that church and state had to be completely separate.

 

[singlesix]

that's absolute insanity for 95% of the state

People are going to start rioting. These governors are idiots and tyrants.
Businesses need to open and people need to do as they please. They can't arrest, fine, or shoot all of us if we stick together.

No? Are there enough that will stick together? This pandemic tells me otherwise; at least up to this point.

I don't think so. Too many scared of the unknown and unseen. Wrap it up in public good, save your grandparents, etc ... slow boil the frog.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

People are going to start rioting. These governors are idiots and tyrants.
Businesses need to open and people need to do as they please. They can't arrest, fine, or shoot all of us if we stick together.

Just got a carwash, a couple groceries, hardware store, fast food, gas... lot of people out and about. Actually looks semi-normal today.

I don't think we're at the insurrection stage that you have in mind.

 

[nonobaddog]

People are going to start rioting. These governors are idiots and tyrants.
Businesses need to open and people need to do as they please. They can't arrest, fine, or shoot all of us if we stick together.

You are right, but this is very difficult to pull off. It would take a huge turnout and "all of us" is nowhere near a large enough group at this point.

 

[bmbutch]

I don't think so. Too many scared of the unknown and unseen. Wrap it up in public good, save your grandparents, etc ... slow boil the frog.

I believe you are correct.
Based on my book of faces feed (stole that term from Churchmouse), those that I thought (based on their pre Covid posts) were hard-core Conservatives, but in the name of "safety" they are all onboard the "Gov't keeping us safe" train. I'm shocked @ how many of them love Beshear in KY, I personally am NOT a fan of his.

 

[T.Lex]

Just got a carwash, a couple groceries, hardware store, fast food, gas... lot of people out and about. Actually looks semi-normal today.

I don't think we're at the insurrection stage that you have in mind.

I think that is the insurrection.

People will just go back to doing what they want/need to do.

Calling the authorities' bluff.

No LARPing. No strategification. Just doing capitalist stuff.

ETA:
Prohibition was the template. People still drank and ran 'shine.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

I don't think so. Too many scared of the unknown and unseen. Wrap it up in public good, save your grandparents, etc ... slow boil the frog.

Mmmmmm fried frog legs sound pretty good now. Little hot sauce to dip em in, some fried mushrooms on the plate with em. Dang.

 

[Dead Duck]

The Governor has a report at 2:30 today.

But this is INGO so don't we have to wait til 9:30 to find out?

 

[terrehautian]

The gov can issue what he wants but it really won’t affect most of us majorly. I haven’t changed my life routine other then not going to church or dining out (both I miss). The police are not directly enforcing it either.

 

[chipbennett]

"Separation of church and state" is a poorly worded attempt to describe a constitutional principles....which never really meant that church and state had to be completely separate.

Saying that it is "poorly worded" is generous, at best.

IIRC, the SCOTUS decision that used the term cited the Thomas Jefferson letter to the Danbury Baptists - a letter in which Jefferson used the phrase "wall of separation between church and state" exactly 180 degrees of how SCOTUS applied the term. In the original usage, the wall of separation was intended to prevent government interference in the church. In the SCOTUS usage (and application as precedent case law), the wall of separation was applied to restrict the influence of the church on the state.

 

[chipbennett]

I believe you are correct.
Based on my book of faces feed (stole that term from Churchmouse), those that I thought (based on their pre Covid posts) were hard-core Conservatives, but in the name of "safety" they are all onboard the "Gov't keeping us safe" train. I'm shocked @ how many of them love Beshear in KY, I personally am NOT a fan of his.

These are precisely the type of people Benjamin Franklin had in mind when he said, "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."