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Bye, bye America (as we know it)
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Ronald Reagan and GHW Bush were teenagers just before Vietnam?
If you were 15 years old at the beginning of the Vietnam War (1955), then you were born around 1940 or so. Hillary was born in 1947 and Kerry in 1943.
Ergo...your generation sucks.
WOW! WHERE ARE YOU GOING WITH THIS CRAP?!
I was a teen at the end of the Viet Nam War ('68)........and was born in 1951..... a "Korean War baby".
You are absolutely correct. I was born in 1950. My generation started growing their hair long and many stopped bathing regularly. They carried signs and accepted the drug culture to Urban white areas. Many of these people are now sitting in the seats of power and running amok. If not them then their kids. So who really sucks here.
I see some really different rational in the thought process of a lot of Millennial as my kids are in that group. My son can be a complete idiot (In my way of thinking) but I look back to my early 30's and just shake my head and let it go. My daughter is more grounded. Both are decent enough as parents. Neither wants anything to do with politics regardless of my influences. They cringe when it is brought up as do most all of their friends. They feel it is absolutely a waste of time and effort as those in power will do what they want regardless..............Makes me wonder if they are on to something here.....
What's this supposed to show? Almost like it was an example taken straight out of the "How to Lie with Statistics" discussion I attended yesterday. The scale is vastly different between the two...
Of course the scale is different between the two, because they represent two different things. The first represents how many school shooting incidents happened, normalized by population (shooting incidents per 100k people). The second is how many school shooting victims per 100k people. The trend line superimposed over the bars in the both charts is a 5 year running average.What's this supposed to show? Almost like it was an example taken straight out of the "How to Lie with Statistics" discussion I attended yesterday. The scale is vastly different between the two...
According to the charts, the number of school shooting incidents between the dates shown fluctuated but hasn’t really increased. But, the second chart shows that starting around 2000s school shootings have increased in the number of people shot per 100K people.
My point in showing these charts is to show there’s little reason to blame millennials for an increase in school shooting incidents. At most we can say they’re maybe more determined to kill more people when they do go off the rails.
Thanks for the explanation because it wasn't overly apparent with just the graphs.
Interesting how we "tip-toe" around this evolution we are experiencing; right before our eyes. As usual, we sit a talk about it - have for decades; talked about it. We knew what was happening knew what the outcomes would be.....and continued to talk about it; but THEY talked louder.
"WE" allowed this to happen. We knew what was happening and did nothing. We still talk about it. We ask, how did this get to out of control? We always "talked about it" but it still happens? We talk on forums, with similar neighbors.....our own. THEY talk too! They talk to children, strangers on the street, students - ant they TALK LOUDER!
I donate support violence, but if we want to win, we need to do what they do......and not just talk about it with people who share a few of our ideas.
"WE" allowed this to happen. We knew what was happening and did nothing. We still talk about it. We ask, how did this get to out of control? We always "talked about it" but it still happens? We talk on forums, with similar neighbors.....our own. THEY talk too! They talk to children, strangers on the street, students - ant they TALK LOUDER!
I donate support violence, but if we want to win, we need to do what they do......and not just talk about it with people who share a few of our ideas.
So now that we've nailed down what generation you are from, we can all thank you and your fellow hippies for your wisdom.
Do you get my point yet? No generation is a monolith.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/nov/4/majority-millennials-want-live-socialist-fascist-o/
Millennials would rather live in socialist or communist nation than under capitalism: Poll
[FONT=&]'This troubling turn highlights widespread historical illiteracy in American society'[/FONT]
From the wiki. Couldn't find a listing for them in Media bias/Fact check
How about the Red Leg generation
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Your chart doesnt say any of this. They're not charts of school shootings, they're charts of mass public shootings.
MPS= mass public shooting
The OP said he was born in '51, the largest mass public shooting in America was the vegas shooting in 2017. 58 innocent killed and 422 injured by gun fire, 851 injured total. The shooter was born in '53, 2 years after the OP.
The issue with all of this is that we are all to blame. We are all Americans, despite our beliefs, political leanings, or age. We need to stop pointing fingers at each other.
I tend to agree with him. We are all a bit guilty of letting the ship get out of the middle of the channel.
Yep. Had school shootings on the mind. I meant to say mass shootings. That’s the only thing I said that the charts don’t say.
Oh. And I had zero to do with any of the mass shootings ever. I take zero responsibility for any of them. If I’d never have been born not one mass shootings would have changed in any way. Therefore I have nothing to repent, nothing of my own actions to regret, nothing for which I should blame myself. Universal guilt is collective bull****. Whatever gave you the idea should probably be purged from your mind. It’s nonsense. There’s no such thing as collective conscience.
But I agree that the finger pointing isn’t helping.
A poll of 2300 people. Who did they call, Seattle residents?
Our last Presidential election taught me everything I needed to know about polls.
Are the millennials who staff our military also a bunch of commies? Inquiring minds want to know.
From none other than the NYT, mindset of millinials ether perpetrating shootings or wanting to.
"Interviews with law enforcement officials, educators, researchers, students and a gunman’s mother, as well as a review of court documents, academic studies and the writings of killers and would-be killers, show that the school-shooting copycat syndrome has grown more pervasive and has steadily escalated in recent years. And much of it can be traced back to the two killers at Columbine, previously ordinary high school students who have achieved dark folk hero status — their followers often known as “Columbiners” — in the corners of the internet where their carefully planned massacre is remembered, studied and in some cases even celebrated.
Investigators say school shootings have become the American equivalent of suicide bombings — not just a tactic, but an ideology. Young men, many of them depressed, alienated or mentally disturbed, are drawn to the Columbine subculture because they see it as a way to lash out at the world and to get the attention of a society that they believe bullies, ignores or misunderstands them."
It was reported the the Texas shooter had multiple pieces of 'flair' that the Columbine shooters wore.
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"Interviews with law enforcement officials, educators, researchers, students and a gunman’s mother, as well as a review of court documents, academic studies and the writings of killers and would-be killers, show that the school-shooting copycat syndrome has grown more pervasive and has steadily escalated in recent years. And much of it can be traced back to the two killers at Columbine, previously ordinary high school students who have achieved dark folk hero status — their followers often known as “Columbiners” — in the corners of the internet where their carefully planned massacre is remembered, studied and in some cases even celebrated.
Investigators say school shootings have become the American equivalent of suicide bombings — not just a tactic, but an ideology. Young men, many of them depressed, alienated or mentally disturbed, are drawn to the Columbine subculture because they see it as a way to lash out at the world and to get the attention of a society that they believe bullies, ignores or misunderstands them."
It was reported the the Texas shooter had multiple pieces of 'flair' that the Columbine shooters wore.
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Columbiners?
That's a thing now? Great. Just Great.
This is on the need to be 1st media. Put these people in the spotlight that they can not achieve on their own merits. It is the ultimate trophy for them.
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Ok so lets look at the history of school shooters. Are they usually done by popular kids, the captain of the football team? No, they are done by the ones who feel alone, unwanted and considered outsiders. Depression is less likely to occur in a person who feels needed, wanted or liked by a society. In this thread alone you have referred to a generation as commies, made a post mocking a guy living in his parents house, and have pushed blame on millennial's. You're signature alone jokes at people for what clothing they wear. You're out casting people who are different than you. You chose to point out what your differences are and belittle others instead of looking at what we share in common.
Im not saying you pushed anyone over the edge to commit a tragedy but you're contributing to the separation of society. Im guilty of it too. I am no angel, but i can learn from my mistakes. Obviously there's always going to be someone thats bat **** crazy, and wants to watch the world burn. But how can we expect our children to be kind and not bully each other if we as adults cant even be civil with each other?
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