Breaking: Per SCOTUS, Same-Sex Marriage is now law of the land.

[GodFearinGunTotin]

So I wander what her belief is about breaking her oath? Is this not wrong? If she believes the Bible, as she claims she does, then violating an oath would certainly be as wrong anything else. Her only moral way out, in my mind, is resignation. She is refusing to do that. So that leaves us with your conclusion: discipline.

There's another option: Re-election.

 

[PaulF]

There's another option: Re-election.

So, are you saying that she is doing the right thing by denying the marriage licenses?

Why? What does that accomplish other that set a dubious prescedent? How long before a Muslim Sheriff refuses to honor domestic abuse warrants based on his beliefs? How long before a Mormon ATF agent declares his territory "dry"?

Arent you taking a stance against the rule of law here?

 

[Woobie]

I'm waiting for an Ammosexual AUSA to not enforce the NFA. When that happens, I'm going all in, lol.

 

[jamil]

This is becoming quite the topic on the virtues of nullification.

 

[KLB]

I hear you, and I really just shrugged it off for years and years. But I swear, you can NOT watch a single television show without some mention or display of it. I can not think of one. And the context is always so hokey, situations where there was really no good reason to mention a spouse right then except to make it clear that he has a husband.

Considering that television and cinema is filled with gratuitous immorality, I really don't care about one more added on. It's the glaringly obvious agenda that I find so annoying. I pay you to entertain me, not to push your crap in my face.

I agree wholeheartedly with you on this. It has become so bad that in some cases I just stop watching shows all together.

 

[mrjarrell]

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

So, are you saying that she is doing the right thing by denying the marriage licenses?

Why? What does that accomplish other that set a dubious prescedent? How long before a Muslim Sheriff refuses to honor domestic abuse warrants based on his beliefs? How long before a Mormon ATF agent declares his territory "dry"?

Arent you taking a stance against the rule of law here?

I know there's an agenda here. Probably more than one agenda. She's chosen to make a stand on principle. We all know if she were a clerk that had insisted on "doing" homosexual marriages even though the state had not passed legislation and SCOTUS had ruled as it should have, the folks clamoring for her to "do her job", the gaystopo, would be pleading for her to continue to be civilly disobedient.

She's chosen to conduct her office in compliance with her deeply held beliefs just like any mayor or sheriff or other elected official that have done so in a manner that might result in some citizens having their rights not fully protected. But the agenda driven mania wants blood. They want absolute fealty to their cause. They want their pound of flesh NOW for any apostates that don't jump in line. I can understand that. We're all a product of our immediate gratification world. But there is a remedy that works everytime it's tried--fire her. At least she's not like a supreme court judge that we have to put up their abuses for an entire lifetime--the people get a chance to kick her out in a couple of years, if they feel like they're not being served properly.

 

[jamil]

Oh no. If you get to pick and choose which nullification you support, so does everyone else.

 

[indiucky]

That's funny.....I had no idea that a gun was only good for War or killing people..Interesting....That sounds like an argument one would get from the gun grabbers at the Daily Kos ...

The Quakers manufactured long rifles and muskets for the revolution...The Quakers brought in boat loads of Scots-Irish to settle their western frontier as a buffer between them and the hostile natives....Quakers do not care whether someone else is pacifist or not...They shipped in people to fight their battles on the frontier...Maybe Lambda Legal director Jon Davidson should read a book about Quaker History before making such a statement lest someone not knowledgeable about such things try to use his words to make a nonsensical point....Oh...too late I see...

Daniel Boone was born to a Quaker family...His father gave him his first gun at (roughly) age 12 to guard their livestock against, wolves and thieves....

 

[mrjarrell]

Oh no. If you get to pick and choose which nullification you support, so does everyone else.

I wouldn't support the quaker, either. Just as I do not support the clerk imposing her shariah law on the citizens of the Commonwealth of Kentucky. She is entitled to believe she is attempting to nullify the law and to do so. The judge is entitled to throw her shariah loving ass under the jail.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Oh no. If you get to pick and choose which nullification you support, so does everyone else.

Proper nullification is in the eye of the nullifier.

 

[terrehautian]

On the clerk front, while it might be her personal beliefs, the courts ruled that she has to. If she doesn't like it, she needs to resign. I get it though, although others may think she is wrong, her and others may think she is right. It is a battle that will never be won on either side (one side will always say the other is wrong on the non government side).

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

On the clerk front, while it might be her personal beliefs, the courts ruled that she has to. If she doesn't like it, she needs to resign. I get it though, although others may think she is wrong, her and others may think she is right. It is a battle that will never be won on either side (one side will always say the other is wrong on the non government side).

Just as with Roe v. Wade, SCOTUS should have stayed out of it or sent it back to the states. It wouldn't have fit The Agenda but even those on the losing side would have recourse for achieving their goals later rather than having to practically pass an amendment to do it. This didn't settle anything.

 

[indiucky]

I wouldn't support the quaker, either. Just as I do not support the clerk imposing her shariah law on the citizens of the Commonwealth of Kentucky. She is entitled to believe she is attempting to nullify the law and to do so. The judge is entitled to throw her shariah loving ass under the jail.

Shariah law is from Islam....Why are you bringing Islam into this discussion???

Quakers don't believe in guns?? Sharia law in Kentucky? You are not making any sense.....It's almost like your just trying to insult people that disagree with your stance...

"Shariah loving a$$ under the jail?" Wow...You know hate is not a family value..I saw it on a rainbow bumper sticker one time...

 

[jamil]

I know there's an agenda here. Probably more than one agenda. She's chosen to make a stand on principle. We all know if she were a clerk that had insisted on "doing" homosexual marriages even though the state had not passed legislation and SCOTUS had ruled as it should have, the folks clamoring for her to "do her job", the gaystopo, would be pleading for her to continue to be civilly disobedient. She's chosen to conduct her office in compliance with her deeply held beliefs just like any mayor or sheriff that might result in some citizens having their rights not fully protected. But the agenda driven mania wants blood. They want absolute fealty to their cause. They want their pound of flesh NOW for any apostates that don't jump in line. I can understand that. We're all a product of our immediate gratification world. But there is a remedy that works everytime it's tried--fire her. At least she's not like a supreme court judge that we have to put up their abuses for an entire lifetime--the people get a chance to kick her out in a couple of years, if they feel like they're not being served properly.

Aside from agendas and politics, it really is about her not doing the job. I'm not supportive of the ****storms created by the mob-shaming gaystopo either. And they are only on the right side of this by the circumstance that it happens to serve their purpose.

Notwithstanding my desire to see the mob-shamers lose, I cannot support her presumed right to use her personal beliefs to discriminate who are sinners and who are not.

The state sets requirements for the County Clerk and it has not granted her that authority. By refusing to issue marriage licenses she is abusing her authority. The only honorable course I see for her is to resign. She doesn't want her signature on marriage licenses, I get that. Fine. But she is assuming rights and authority she doesn't have. Should I support authority she doesn't have just so the militant gays don't win?

 

[Reno316]

Why? What does that accomplish other that set a dubious prescedent? How long before a Muslim Sheriff refuses to honor domestic abuse warrants based on his beliefs? How long before a Mormon ATF agent declares his territory "dry"?

How long before a sheriff decides to refuse to issue CCW permits because he doesn't believe in concealed carry?

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Aside from agendas and politics, it really is about her not doing the job. I'm not supportive of the ****storms created by the mob-shaming gaystopo either. And they are only on the right side of this by the circumstance that it happens to serve their purpose.

Notwithstanding my desire to see the mob-shamers lose, I cannot support her presumed right to use her personal beliefs to discriminate who are sinners and who are not.

The state sets requirements for the County Clerk and it has not granted her that authority. By refusing to issue marriage licenses she is abusing her authority. The only honorable course I see for her is to resign. She doesn't want her signature on marriage licenses, I get that. Fine. But she is assuming rights and authority she doesn't have. Should I support authority she doesn't have just so the militant gays don't win?

If this were an elected official neglecting certain duties or performing certain duties of his/her office (that had nothing to do with the gaystoppo) in manners that some of his/her constituents might disagree, there might well be complaints. There might well be legal challenges. From what little I can tell she is satisfactorily performing all of the duties of her job but this one. It's not like she's not showing up for work or embezzelling the county's money. It that she's not fullfilling a single aspect of her job. This is totally about contradicting agendas. She will lose. She states she's already gotten death threats. I hope she doesn't lose her life over this.

 

[Reno316]

From what little I can tell she is satisfactorily performing all of the duties of her job but this one.

Yes... She is failing to stay in compliance with the law.

Odd quirk for a clerk of the court.

 

[Woobie]

If this were an elected official neglecting certain duties or performing certain duties of his/her office (that had nothing to do with the gaystoppo) in manners that some of his/her constituents might disagree, there might well be complaints. There might well be legal challenges. From what little I can tell she is satisfactorily performing all of the duties of her job but this one. It's not like she's not showing up for work or embezzelling the county's money. It that she's not fullfilling a single aspect of her job. This is totally about contradicting agendas. She will lose. She states she's already gotten death threats. I hope she doesn't lose her life over this.

Yeah, but it's kind of a major function of her job. I used to be a mechanic. If I had refused to work on engines because some of them were 4 cylinders, that would have left me with much less utility as an employee. How long would I have made it in that job?

 

[jamil]

If this were an elected official neglecting certain duties or performing certain duties of his/her office (that had nothing to do with the gaystoppo) in manners that some of his/her constituents might disagree, there might well be complaints. There might well be legal challenges. From what little I can tell she is satisfactorily performing all of the duties of her job but this one. It's not like she's not showing up for work or embezzelling the county's money. It that she's not fullfilling a single aspect of her job. This is totally about contradicting agendas. She will lose. She states she's already gotten death threats. I hope she doesn't lose her life over this.

That's what militants do. They threaten, they terrorize. And there are militants on both sides. But I doubt she'll lose her life over this. I hope no one thinks this is worth taking someone's life over.

She may be performing admirably with her other functions, but because of her insistence in forcing her religious views on her constituents, no one can get a marriage license in Rowen County straight or gay. Residents shouldn't have to travel out of county to get one. And if she'd have resigned from the beginning instead of grandstanding herself, there would not be this ****storm. And the opportunity for the gaystopo to win yet again wouldn't have happened. I wish her religious leaders would talk some sense into her instead of convincing her to continue to wield authority she doesn't have.