Breaking: Per SCOTUS, Same-Sex Marriage is now law of the land.

[Lowe0]

Then I wouldn't mess with Him.

What does it matter? Without proof, I can't believe. God declines to provide proof. Hence, if he does exist, then I'm already a write-off.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Think about it logically for a moment. Is it okay to torture someone for not having an open enough heart?

I'm not the guy to be able to explain it logically. I really don't think Fenway opening up the forum to religious talk was meant to include prosteltyzing...I wouldn't be a good person for that anyway. So, I'll just conclude my part in this discussion by saying (and I'm not trying to by snide or anything) you'll get it, when you're ready to get it.

 

[mrjarrell]

What does it matter? Without proof, I can't believe. God declines to provide proof. Hence, if he does exist, then I'm already a write-off.

I really don't think you have anything to worry about. I'm more worried about what Pooh and Piglet think.

 

[Woobie]

Think about it logically for a moment. Is it okay to torture someone for not having an open enough heart?

Ah, but that is not the reason for the punishment. The punishment is for sin. The choice before each person is if they want mercy or not. Having no concept of true holiness, it is impossible for anyone to comprehend the egregiousness of sin. If we did, we would admit that the punishment fits the crime. The fact that there is an escape at all is really a miracle, the product of amazing grace.

 

[KG1]

I really don't think you have anything to worry about. I'm more worried about what Pooh and Piglet think.

Pooh and Piglet think you should do 10 Hail Marys.

 

[Woobie]

I'm not the guy to be able to explain it logically. I really don't think Fenway opening up the forum to religious talk was meant to include prosteltyzing...I wouldn't be a good person for that anyway. So, I'll just conclude my part in this discussion by saying (and I'm not trying to by snide or anything) you'll get it, when you're ready to get it.

Yes, you're right. I apologize for my part in carrying it on so long.

 

[mrjarrell]

Pooh and Piglet think you should do 10 Hail Marys.

I'm no good at football.

 

[KG1]

I'm no good at football.

That's obvious.

 

[Lowe0]

. Don't ask me to judge your actions, I have no grounds to judge.

If we did, we would admit that the punishment fits the crime.

These two statements are contradictory. If you have no grounds to judge me, then how can you be certain that the punishment fits my crime?

 

[bmbutch]

I'll be praying for many, when you stand before the Judgement Seat of Christ, your arguments & quips will mean nothing, your knee will bow, your tongue will confess He is the King of Kings & Lord of Lords.

In my younger days, I didn't fully understand about the world being blind, I'm beginning to understand.

As as much as some of you will not believe this, I'll be praying you'll be strolling with me in Glory.

Call me a kook, I'll gladly be a kook of the Kingdom!

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

I'll be praying for many, when you stand before the Judgement Seat of Christ, your arguments & quips will mean nothing, your knee will bow, your tongue will confess He is the King of Kings & Lord of Lords.

In my younger days, I didn't fully understand about the world being blind, I'm beginning to understand.

As as much as some of you will not believe this, I'll be praying you'll be strolling with me in Glory.

Call me a kook, I'll gladly be a kook of the Kingdom!

This.

You can't make them get into the boat. But when they're ready, we must be willing to help them aboard.

 

[caverjamie]

For Christians, it is a sin to unite the temple of the Holy Spirit of God (the body) in any carnal way outside of God's definition of marriage. (See post 346)

For non-Christians, they are not in the presence of the Holy Spirit and worrying about individual sins is pointless.

Not that it matters much, but I have appreciated your explanation and clarity in your several posts in this discussion, thanks.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Not making a thread yet... but amazingly, SCOTUS expected to rule on more today, shortly...

Mississippi abortion, perhaps?

 

[MisterChester]

What does it matter? Without proof, I can't believe. God declines to provide proof. Hence, if he does exist, then I'm already a write-off.

While I believe in a higher power, I don't know if the Abrahamic God is the one. To me something must have created the universe. But I sincerely do not believe the earth is only 6000 years old because we have proof of it. I can take scientific proofs and apply it to my beliefs. So in a way I believe what we can prove could very well be the evidence of when it all happened. It doesn't help that it says in the bible that God makes people who are destined for hell. So it's possible you could be a "write off" but it doesn't really align with current Christian beliefs. Then again I did learn on INGO the New Testament supersedes the old one.

 

[Mad Macs]

I'll be praying for many, when you stand before the Judgement Seat of Christ, your arguments & quips will mean nothing, your knee will bow, your tongue will confess He is the King of Kings & Lord of Lords.

In my younger days, I didn't fully understand about the world being blind, I'm beginning to understand.

As as much as some of you will not believe this, I'll be praying you'll be strolling with me in Glory.

Call me a kook, I'll gladly be a kook of the Kingdom!

But what if a person doesn't share your beliefs? What makes your beliefs more "true" than somebody else's?

 

[Woobie]

But what if a person doesn't share your beliefs? What makes your beliefs more "true" than somebody else's?

The fact that anyone believes anything does not make that thing more or less true. Reality determines if something is true or false

 

[1DOWN4UP]

Same-Sex Marriage Fight Turns to Clerks Who Refuse Licenses

 

[bmbutch]

But what if a person doesn't share your beliefs? What makes your beliefs more "true" than somebody else's?

Well, if their beliefs turn out to be truth, I guess it depends on said beliefs. If however, Jesus Christ ends up being Truth (my belief), those that rejected Him will be in for an Eternity without Him (some believe that is the true Hell, others believe weeping & nashing of teeth), but they will still bend their knee & confess He is King of Kings & Lord of Lords.

As above, I pray for the lost, I don't want to see anybody lost. In the end for me, I just want to be with Jesus for all Eternity, He's my Lord & Saviour, I give Him praise, He has all the Glory.

Am I sinless? Hardly, I die daily, & repent daily.

 

[Lowe0]

Well, if their beliefs turn out to be truth, I guess it depends on said beliefs. If however, Jesus Christ ends up being Truth (my belief), those that rejected Him will be in for an Eternity without Him (some believe that is the true Hell, others believe weeping & nashing of teeth), but they will still bend their knee & confess He is King of Kings & Lord of Lords.

As above, I pray for the lost, I don't want to see anybody lost. In the end for me, I just want to be with Jesus for all Eternity, He's my Lord & Saviour, I give Him praise, He has all the Glory.

Am I sinless? Hardly, I die daily, & repent daily.

You don't actually have to reject God, though. Merely being skeptical earns the same punishment as a murderer or a rapist.

 

[Dean C.]

You don't actually have to reject God, though. Merely being skeptical earns the same punishment as a murderer or a rapist.

Sounds like someone might have their priorities out of order for Skeptical = Murdering Rapist.....