BREAKING NEWS - CAR SMASHES INTO BARRIER AT U.S. CAPITOL COMPLEX; SHOTS REPORTEDLY FIRED

[DoggyDaddy]

Now the family of the scumbag is claiming "depression and possible mental illness" were likely the cause for his actions. So there's their "hook" for additional gun restrictions. Probably be using this for additional background checks and waiting period legislation.

 

[foszoe]

Now the family of the scumbag is claiming "depression and possible mental illness" were likely the cause for his actions. So there's their "hook" for additional gun restrictions. Probably be using this for additional background checks and waiting period legislation.

In general, do you believe people that do such things are sane?

 

[DoggyDaddy]

In general, do you believe people that do such things are sane?

Some are, some are not I would say. Some are just evil, regardless of their mental status.

 

[JTScribe]

In general, do you believe people that do such things are sane?

Absolutely. Just because someone has different morals or behaviors than I do doesn’t mean they’re insane.

 

[mstrmstr]

Comes to find out WHY the news just dropped all coverage. He was a follower of Louis Farrakhan

 

[OakRiver]

Now the family of the scumbag is claiming "depression and possible mental illness" were likely the cause for his actions. So there's their "hook" for additional gun restrictions. Probably be using this for additional background checks and waiting period legislation.

Didn't the assailant use a knife?

 

[Jaybird1980]

Didn't the assailant use a knife?

Yes, but they have already prefaced it with " it would have been so much worse if he would have used a gun".

Never let an opportunity go to waste.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

Didn't the assailant use a knife?

Used a car and attempted to use a knife but an officer prevented it by helping him achieve room temperature iirc.

 

[BugI02]

In general, do you believe people that do such things are sane?

Should that be an excuse. Those that aren't killed should be tried for their actual crimes, be found guilty but insane, and receive the same punishment as those not insane while any rehabilitation of their mental state takes place in prison

I seem to recall we (rightfully) think that the wealthy and privileged (can you say Hunter Biden) should not be given a pass because of their mental angst. Neither should anyone else

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Didn't the assailant use a knife?

Yes, but they have already prefaced it with " it would have been so much worse if he would have used a gun".

Never let an opportunity go to waste.

Yes to Oak, and yes to Jay. Also, a piece I saw that featured security photos of him purchasing the knife quoted the shopkeeper that sold him the knife as saying (paraphrasing), "There was nothing that would have been raised any red flags about the purchase." Same type of thing that's been said in recent shootings where the shooter obtained his gun legally. That's the only point I was trying to make.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

Should that be an excuse. Those that aren't killed should be tried for their actual crimes, be found guilty but insane, and receive the same punishment as those not insane while any rehabilitation of their mental state takes place in prison

I seem to recall we (rightfully) think that the wealthy and privileged (can you say Hunter Biden) should not be given a pass because of their mental angst. Neither should anyone else

Did he ever insinuate that it should be an excuse or not tried for their crimes. If so I didn't see it. From various reports IMO yes the man was probably "insane", I have no problem with what happened and if he would have survived would have no problem with him being punished for it. About the only difference between your and mine point of view is possibly the rehabilitation should take place in prison. Although most mental institution for those who have been found guilty but insane from my understand are pretty much prison. In fact there has been an officer on here who stated that after being in both, most people would prefer prison. One change I would like to see would be if they are "cured" then they get sent to prison to finish their sentence, if they are cured before it would have concluded. From my understanding that if you commit a crime and are found guilty but insane and the sentence could have been 50 yrs and they are "cured" in 10 they are simply let out. Nah, let them finish the next 40.

 

[BugI02]

Under that rationale, you would WANT the mental rehab facility to be worse than prison, else no one would ever want to be cured. It starts to trend Dickensian pretty quickly

 

[Timjoebillybob]

Under that rationale, you would WANT the mental rehab facility to be worse than prison, else no one would ever want to be cured. It starts to trend Dickensian pretty quickly

As I said an officer on this board who has been in both has stated that the criminal rehab facilities are worse. And yep it can trend Dickensian I would assume. I can't recall exactly but I think a good bit of it wasn't necessarily mistreatment of those confined, but more along the lines of "freedoms" they had. Much less freedom to move about, much closer watched. In my misspent youth I unfortunately spent a short bit of time in a county lockup, other than during lights out we were free to move about. Go to the day room, play cards/chess/etc, even visit other cells, (very) occasional walk by of the guards. I've visited people in mental hospitals, and actually in retrospect it was about the same with perhaps a bit more supervision at least in common areas. I'm going to guess that those confined to a criminal mental rehab don't have those same privileges.

 

[actaeon277]

I'm waiting for the media to be outraged by the attack on the Iowa State Capital.

BLM activists clash with troopers inside Iowa State Capitol in dramatic vid

TROOPERS clashed with Black Lives Matter activists during a protest at the Iowa State Capitol on Thursday. Footage from the scene appears to show protesters wearing face masks, holding signs and ch…

www.thesun.co.uk

 

[maxwelhse]

I'm waiting for the media to be outraged by the attack on the Iowa State Capital.

BLM activists clash with troopers inside Iowa State Capitol in dramatic vid

TROOPERS clashed with Black Lives Matter activists during a protest at the Iowa State Capitol on Thursday. Footage from the scene appears to show protesters wearing face masks, holding signs and ch…

www.thesun.co.uk

Bunch of people shot down in Texas too, but only 1 fatality. Not "mass murdery" enough, though the article did manage to draw a line to Biden anyhow.

One dead, at least five wounded in Texas shooting

One person was killed and at least five wounded in a shooting at a business in Texas Thursday, just hours after US President Joe Biden called gun violence an "epidemic" and unveiled plans to tackle the crisis.

news.yahoo.com

 

[Timjoebillybob]

I'm waiting for the media to be outraged by the attack on the Iowa State Capital.

BLM activists clash with troopers inside Iowa State Capitol in dramatic vid

TROOPERS clashed with Black Lives Matter activists during a protest at the Iowa State Capitol on Thursday. Footage from the scene appears to show protesters wearing face masks, holding signs and ch…

www.thesun.co.uk

One thing about that article, they compare it to Jan 6 at the US capitol. Did those at the US capitol have a permit to protest outside and inside?
"Rally organizers showed reporters a copy of the state permit they obtained to hold a rally outside the Capitol and in the building'ssRotunda."
https://www.desmoinesregister.com/s...-bills-black-lives-matter-protest/7128326002/