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  • rhino

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    There is. I know a few folks never in the military that have been diagnosed with PTSD. And it explains some of their behaviors.

    Yeah, things like losing your family in a fire, surviving a predatory, violent assault, and a host of other things can all cause serious issues.
     

    bwframe

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    While the diagnosis may be attributable to soldiers and combat, the condition is not exclusive to military and warfare. There is plenty of life-altering trauma to go around in the civilian world.

    A good friend of mine was having a really tough time after his second parent passed, then shortly thereafter got dumped by his GF. After my urging him, he eventually sought some therapy. I don't know who or how qualified the therapist he went to was, but I was a bit shocked to hear my friend say he was diagnosed with PTSD. :dunno:
     

    Ggreen

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    PTSD is simply elevated stress brought on by a traumatic event. Literally could be anything, there is no standard for individuals ability to cope with different events. Military made it mainstream. It's not always permanent often times it's transitory.
     

    churchmouse

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    PTSD is simply elevated stress brought on by a traumatic event. Literally could be anything, there is no standard for individuals ability to cope with different events. Military made it mainstream. It's not always permanent often times it's transitory.

    Brother I hope it is transitory. It is effecting some one I care about.
     

    Hkindiana

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    I read about a college student who did not qualify for any government funding. So, he got a doctor to diagnose him with PTSD as seperation anxiety from being away from his parents. THEN he qualified for all king of government grants.
     

    Cameramonkey

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    Bumpstocks have been described as a toy and in my mind they are. But even toys get scrutinized these days.
    I am not one to say let them have this and they will leave that alone. They are on a well defined path with a very well laid out end game. We all know what it is.

    That crazy orange man is leaning towards the real issues in this (Mental Health) is a positive.

    I agree. Same with TRUE high cap (60-100+) round mags. Those crazy big drum mags are highly unreliable and lots of reports that they jam frequently. Definitely no real tactical value IMHO. (I'm sure others may disagree) I'll take 3 30s over a 100 drum, personally.

    Still, I dont trust my govt to not creep beyond those toys, so I dont support an actual ban on them. First its true high cap mags. Then a little while later they will decide it didnt work, so maybe they need to expand them to 30 round mags... lather rinse repeat.
     

    churchmouse

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    I agree. Same with TRUE high cap (60-100+) round mags. Those crazy big drum mags are highly unreliable and lots of reports that they jam frequently. Definitely no real tactical value IMHO. (I'm sure others may disagree) I'll take 3 30s over a 100 drum, personally.

    Still, I dont trust my govt to not creep beyond those toys, so I dont support an actual ban on them. First its true high cap mags. Then a little while later they will decide it didnt work, so maybe they need to expand them to 30 round mags... lather rinse repeat.

    Read the sentence following the highlighted red. I totally agree with you.
     

    Ggreen

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    I agree. Same with TRUE high cap (60-100+) round mags. Those crazy big drum mags are highly unreliable and lots of reports that they jam frequently. Definitely no real tactical value IMHO. (I'm sure others may disagree) I'll take 3 30s over a 100 drum, personally.

    Still, I dont trust my govt to not creep beyond those toys, so I dont support an actual ban on them. First its true high cap mags. Then a little while later they will decide it didnt work, so maybe they need to expand them to 30 round mags... lather rinse repeat.

    My surefire mags are fine. My buddies Schmeisser 60s were running good too. Toys are air soft.

    Bumpstocks only got banned because a psycho demonstrated they actually were effective in a suppressive fire role...
     

    churchmouse

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    My surefire mags are fine. My buddies Schmeisser 60s were running good too. Toys are air soft.

    Bumpstocks only got banned because a psycho demonstrated they actually were effective in a suppressive fire role...

    But did he really...????Not arguing here just never got a lot of info on that one.
     

    Ggreen

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    But did he really...????Not arguing here just never got a lot of info on that one.

    1 guy suppressed and terrorized an entire festival pretty effectively using them. This is a cold observation only, this was terrorism and senseless violence. They banned it because they feared it, not because it was a toy. Lots of people considered rds on a pistol a toy, now they are becoming standard.
     

    Sirshredalot

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    1 guy suppressed and terrorized an entire festival pretty effectively using them. This is a cold observation only, this was terrorism and senseless violence. They banned it because they feared it, not because it was a toy. Lots of people considered rds on a pistol a toy, now they are becoming standard.

    Meh...review the information available and then ask yourself a few questions(in your head).
    How would YOU have pulled off vegas?

    The vegas guy was just a patsy. Vegas was a contract job pushed by a political agenda.

    If you dont hear from me again, you'll know i was right.

    Shred
     

    churchmouse

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    Meh...review the information available and then ask yourself a few questions(in your head).
    How would YOU have pulled off vegas?

    The vegas guy was just a patsy. Vegas was a contract job pushed by a political agenda.

    If you dont hear from me again, you'll know i was right.

    Shred

    Crap.....are you dumping on Billery.....:):
     

    Ggreen

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    Meh...review the information available and then ask yourself a few questions(in your head).
    How would YOU have pulled off vegas?

    The vegas guy was just a patsy. Vegas was a contract job pushed by a political agenda.

    If you dont hear from me again, you'll know i was right.

    Shred

    The facts don't stack. I was instant skeptic even discussed it on here, but looking back it doesn't look like a conspiracy to me. Just a well planned psychotic attack from a fragile minded radicalized extremist that saw a way to force action. These shooters are just a different tier of suicide bomber.
     

    churchmouse

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    The facts don't stack. I was instant skeptic even discussed it on here, but looking back it doesn't look like a conspiracy to me. Just a well planned psychotic attack from a fragile minded radicalized extremist that saw a way to force action. These shooters are just a different tier of suicide bomber.

    On the news this morning there were 3 arrests in different states for people making threats of this.
    Maybe people will start paying attention.
     

    Cameramonkey

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    My surefire mags are fine. My buddies Schmeisser 60s were running good too. Toys are air soft.

    Bumpstocks only got banned because a psycho demonstrated they actually were effective in a suppressive fire role...

    I dunno about normal effectiveness. Whats the MOA of a target 100yds wide at a 1/4 mile?

    First atf recalled factory braced firearm.

    Can we get a Cliffs Notes version? too small to read on my screen. (even after clicking the thumbnail)
     

    Sling10mm

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    My gosh, is this really what our country was founded to be? Is this what so many have died for over the years? To have some bureaucrat tell us what plastic piece we can have on our firearm, or how long of a barrel, and/or type of barrel, in combination with overall length.... blah, blah, blah.
     
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