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Active shooter situation at school in Parkland, FL; reports of victims
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2ADMNLOVER
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Always has been .
This is absolutely correct. Unfortunately, pointing that out to the general public outside the cozy confines of this forum, tends to lead members of said public to label one as a supporter of dead kids.
Sure, but don't say it in front of a hot microphone.
HubertGummer
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Thanks for that good idea. I hadn't thought about doing this. Did you just get some ar500 plates made for a vest?
Sad that this is even needed.......BulletBlocker Bulletproof Backpacks and Body Armor
I still think Gun Free Zones are like fish bowls.
Personally I think we need to bring back "institutions" in the United States too many unstable people are out there and the second they go off their meds they loose their minds effectively speaking. When deinstitutionalization hit the United States in the 1970's the mental patients previously in institutions wound up homeless or in jail (jails and prisons are basically the new mental institutions).
I do not think that people with temporary issues (IE: depression) should be barred from having firearms but people diagnosed with diseases that cannot be controlled only medicated such as Schizophrenia should not be allowed to own firearms. I have seen this type of disease up close and when the person is on their meds they are relatively "normal" but they almost always stop taking them because they are "better now" thats when the voices come back telling them to kill everyone in their house.
Now I know this would not help with allot of school shootings immediately but if these resources were available more readily then it might help, parents could get their kids the help they need instead of the quick "in and out" system most hospitals employ currently for mental issues. Places for people to get the proper medications figured out before they leave would be fantastic instead of coming back every month to change the meds often times as outlined in other posts to find the right drug cocktail for the individual.
I would also like to develop a system for reporting the "troubled" kids in school for mental health issues as to be honest not being very far removed from high school and college it does not take long to figure out who the favorite candidate for "most likely school shooter" is in a school. The issue is with how it is handled and reported as in Tipton a HS student was recently reported as "having a list and planning on shooting up the school" turns out the report was 100% malicious and the product of a cruel prank by two other students.
Parents need to do better most of all IMHO, the Newton shooter (I refuse to mention these peoples names and honestly wish them and their entire family were effectively removed from history) there is NO way his parents did not know he was deranged, they just chose to ignore it. People go around believing that their children can do no wrong, that is a lie anyone regardless of birth and background under the correct circumstances is capable of committing evil acts.
I wish there was a simple solution to this problem but unfortunately it is a multifaceted issue that will require probably years to even properly scratch the surface or make meaningful changes to.
I do not think that people with temporary issues (IE: depression) should be barred from having firearms but people diagnosed with diseases that cannot be controlled only medicated such as Schizophrenia should not be allowed to own firearms. I have seen this type of disease up close and when the person is on their meds they are relatively "normal" but they almost always stop taking them because they are "better now" thats when the voices come back telling them to kill everyone in their house.
Now I know this would not help with allot of school shootings immediately but if these resources were available more readily then it might help, parents could get their kids the help they need instead of the quick "in and out" system most hospitals employ currently for mental issues. Places for people to get the proper medications figured out before they leave would be fantastic instead of coming back every month to change the meds often times as outlined in other posts to find the right drug cocktail for the individual.
I would also like to develop a system for reporting the "troubled" kids in school for mental health issues as to be honest not being very far removed from high school and college it does not take long to figure out who the favorite candidate for "most likely school shooter" is in a school. The issue is with how it is handled and reported as in Tipton a HS student was recently reported as "having a list and planning on shooting up the school" turns out the report was 100% malicious and the product of a cruel prank by two other students.
Parents need to do better most of all IMHO, the Newton shooter (I refuse to mention these peoples names and honestly wish them and their entire family were effectively removed from history) there is NO way his parents did not know he was deranged, they just chose to ignore it. People go around believing that their children can do no wrong, that is a lie anyone regardless of birth and background under the correct circumstances is capable of committing evil acts.
I wish there was a simple solution to this problem but unfortunately it is a multifaceted issue that will require probably years to even properly scratch the surface or make meaningful changes to.
I wouldn't try to explain this to any parents at their kids' funerals.
Sure...if I were less eloquent.
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spencer rifle
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Our youngest is not allowed to bring his backpack to class, and would have to go to his locker to get it.
One of his teachers kept a "rock collection" on the windowsill, with instructions that students would grab one and be ready to use it.
spencer rifle
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Originally written after Newtown, probably linked here before, but may be useful. Long but worth the read:
http://monsterhunternation.com/2012/12/20/an-opinion-on-gun-control/
http://monsterhunternation.com/2012/12/20/an-opinion-on-gun-control/
I thought they completely avoided the issue. It seemed to me he made his comments only because he felt he had to say something. Honestly the needle hasn't moved one way of the other. So what's the point of even making a statement?
Well, for one, the media would have raked him over the coals if he didn't.
Lets waive the 8th Amendment for this guy , Florida still sanctions the use of the Electric Chair, lets set it to a relatively low power to ensure that it takes a good amount of time to achieve the desired effect. Then eliminate this dirt-bag from history
Jumped to the last page so I'm not sure if this was posted yet. Forgive the dup if it was.
http://www.dailywire.com/news/27175...content=062316-podcast&utm_campaign=mattwalsh
https://www.dailywire.com/news/2718...m_content=062316-news&utm_campaign=benshapiro
http://www.dailywire.com/news/27175...content=062316-podcast&utm_campaign=mattwalsh
https://www.dailywire.com/news/2718...m_content=062316-news&utm_campaign=benshapiro
I still have to be a Constitutionalist. As much as I would like to go along with that idea, I can't. The same goes with the Second Amendment. I have no illusions about how to solve this issue, but the Constitution doesn't allow it, and I don't want to be the collateral damage as a result of collective safety.
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