Active shooter at Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas...

[AmmoManAaron]

Guy at work is convinced this attack is tied to the Nov 4 "purge"
He is an avid Alex Jones follower and chews with his mouth open!

I'm awaiting evidence, but I heard through the grapevine long before the Alex Jones/InfoWars BS that ANTIFA material was found in the hotel room. I have no evidence, just saying I heard it before it hit the conspiracy sites. It may be nothing or it may be something. Also heard that a person visited him at the hotel days before the shooting. I'm awaiting evidence on that too...possible second person of interest (i.e. - not the girlfriend, who by the way does have a shady past).

 

[Thor]

OK. After further review I will grant your wish.
As you stayed glued to the thread for near an hour after you grand exit I see this as no great loss to the Forum.

Be well.

58 posts since 2013...obviously didn't spend much time here anyway and only came back to insult INGO. Well , and take the nearest EXit.

 

[churchmouse]

Since you're granting wishes. I want one with everything, including cheese but hold the lettuce.

Do you have fries?

Home or steak fries...???

 

[Cameramonkey]

I'm awaiting evidence, but I heard through the grapevine long before the Alex Jones/InfoWars BS that ANTIFA material was found in the hotel room. I have no evidence, just saying I heard it before it hit the conspiracy sites. It may be nothing or it may be something. Also heard that a person visited him at the hotel days before the shooting. I'm awaiting evidence on that too...possible second person of interest (i.e. - not the girlfriend, who by the way does have a shady past).

It would jive with the apparent footage of him protesting Trump in a p**** hat that is floating around.

 

[Thor]

I don't see that flying in it's current form. Taking without compensation or an amnesty registration period is no bueno.

It's another Feinstein anti-gun bill...it's going nowhere.

 

[T.Lex]

58 posts since 2013...obviously didn't spend much time here anyway and only came back to insult INGO. Well , and take the nearest EXit.

We must hereafter refer to this event as the Exbritexit. I'm not sure exexbritit will make it past the censor.

ETA:
Well, whadayaknow.

 

[churchmouse]

It's another Feinstein anti-gun bill...it's going nowhere.

If I had a wish it would be for her (and Pelosi) to go somewhere. Anywhere. But here.

 

[Alpo]

Home or steak fries...???

ooooooh! steak fries!

 

[bwframe]

...My opinion, FWIW, is that legislation would make existing bumpfire stocks and gat-cranks (and possibly binary triggers) some sort of NFA registered and regulated item. Think of an amnesty registration period similar to what happened in the early 90s with certain shotguns that the ATF made Destructive Devices. The difference in this case is that legislation will have to be passed before anything happens...and the legislative process is quite messy. No one knows where this rabbit hole would go, but if logic prevails (LOL!) one would think that amnesty and registration would be the easiest path since it has been done before. God help us, this is going to be a mess if anything actually moves forward.

That's their job. We don't have any choice but to let them do that. No one wants to be in this position, but it will calm their rhetoric and it might actually expose some 2A traitors on our side.

We shouldn't give an inch. Still can't help but think offering to trade those silly gadgets going on to the NFA for suppressors coming off might open positive silencer dialog.

 

[Thor]

If I had a wish it would be for her (and Pelosi) to go somewhere. Anywhere. But here.

That would be a good wish....

 

[Super Bee]

I believe I havent missed more than 5 pages in this discussion and I did not see this touched on.

From everything I read it took police 72 minutes from his first shot unit the time he was taken down. To me this sounds like an awfully long time, am I wrong? And the guy was not firing for 72 minutes, what the heck was he doing up there?

 

[ArcadiaGP]

I'd love to see a stronger campaign by pro-gun people in the limelight to call attention to the suppressor red herring.

It's so easily debunked. They bring the dB down to just below the point of damaging your hearing. But people reading anti-gun crap on it think it's a James Bond movie plip plip

 

[LockStocksAndBarrel]

It's another Feinstein anti-gun bill...it's going nowhere.

That press release is from 2013.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Ban bump firing? How does one outlaw a technique?

 

[Thor]

Giving ground is no longer an option, they will take it and start on more. They will never willingly walk back what they have taken, the end goal is to take it all.

 

[AmmoManAaron]

It's another Feinstein anti-gun bill...it's going nowhere.

Normally I would agree, but the below fact concerns me.

Representative Bill Flores (R-Texas) just called for a ban on bumpfire stocks. Flores, himself, is a gun owner. Lot of tweets calling this common sense...

NY Post journo Seth Mandel: "Pro-gun folks should want this too. If it passes, it shows that a focus on mechanics, not scary looks, of guns is what matters."

If anything gets scheduled for a vote in any committee, we as gun owners need to respond ASAP. At a minimum I would suggest inserting language to create an NFA amnesty registration period for currently possessed items...but I would prefer not to give another inch on our rights at all. Stay vigilant folks, anything could be inserted into such a bill!

 

[Thor]

That press release is from 2013.

Thanks, just replying to a post in thread. At least it wasn't a necro-post.

 

[T.Lex]

I believe I havent missed more than 5 pages in this discussion and I did not see this touched on.

From everything I read it took police 72 minutes from his first shot unit the time he was taken down. To me this sounds like an awfully long time, am I wrong? And the guy was not firing for 72 minutes, what the heck was he doing up there?

Yeah, I came back to it earlier today.

Shooter sent 12 or so volleys downrange in about 10 minutes. Uniformed security guard came to the room to check on the smoke detector and loud noises. Shooter shot him through the door, injuring him. Shooter then turned a gun on himself.

It was an hour later that SWAT busted down that particular door.

One thing I read, but didn't find substantiation for, was that they started a room-to-room search on the 29th floor before going to the 32nd, where they knew the guy was. Haven't gotten clarity on that part of the timeline.

 

[Alpo]

Yeah, I came back to it earlier today.

Shooter sent 12 or so volleys downrange in about 10 minutes. Uniformed security guard came to the room to check on the smoke detector and loud noises. Shooter shot him through the door, injuring him. Shooter then turned a gun on himself.

It was an hour later that SWAT busted down that particular door.

One thing I read, but didn't find substantiation for, was that they started a room-to-room search on the 29th floor before going to the 32nd, where they knew the guy was. Haven't gotten clarity on that part of the timeline.

Doesn't sound unreasonable. Once the shooter location is identified, he couldn't easily exit the room. Starting a search on nearby floors probably a good idea, but I missed the Holiday Inn exit and had to stay in a Ramada.

 

[JAL]

JAL, I have noticed an influx of slide/bump fire stocks for sale as well as binary triggers. As gun owners we often don't do ourselves any favors.

Much like the left that "never let a good tragedy go to waste" to further their agenda. Some in "our" camp do the same, with "oh boy I can get rich" selling stocks and triggers based on a perceived fear that they will be made illegal.

I forgot to mention an expectation that Tannerite (a trademarked prodcut) and anything similar to end up being banned as well. There has been mention of the perp having some amount of it in his home(s) plus some untold amount of ammonium nitrate found in the vehicle. The sheriff describes it as "explosives". Regarding firearms owners not doing themselves favors, we have the YouTube videos of escalation in how many pounds of the stuff is detonated at once. He who blows up the largest amount wins. One of the latest I saw was "164 lbs of Tannerite Kills a Barn". There was also the story recently posted here about several pounds used to blow up a garden tractor, a piece of which amputated the shooter's leg. What was intended to be used for making targets in small quantities has been abused.

Just because one can doesn't mean one should. That principle all too often gets lost, in more ways than with weapons and explosives.

John

P.S.
Random thoughts: Knob Creek will be held in just over a week. I can only wonder the level of national news attention it will attract with all the ant-gun fanatics shrieking about the culture it fosters. It has gone by in the past without any news media attention that I've seen. Cannot imagine it will fly under national news media radar this time.