a reason to love HOAs…

[miguel]

The best part about HOAs is they give us a group of people to practice trials on before we move on to, well, in Minecraft...

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Miguel is reminded of Stalin's apocryphal quote, "How many divisions does the Pope have?"

How many divisions does the typical HOA have?

 

[Wstar425]

It's a dual fuel, I have two of them (price was so good, why not grab a spare).

A'ok with gas here so I get the full power output and we can do everything like we're on utility power.

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Its cheaper and easier to run it on gas, with plenty of 5gal cans filled and then 36 in the truck, I'm good to rock and roll. Plenty of gas stations to fill them up vs limited propane filling stations (or in my mom's case, needing a truck come top it off)...

I bought the DuroMax 11,000iH inverter model. It will run our entire house as we have a swamp cooler instead of refrigerated air. (What they call A/C out here with a compressor). Also dual fuel with 2 100 pound propane hogs, plus anywhere from 10-30 gallons of ethonal free gas for motorcycles and small engines that I cycle thru a couple of times a year. I figure I can get about 5 days out of the propane.

It’s a lot quieter than my old open frame 5500 watt. We live on 5 acres with subdivisions on three sides, which I “assume” have HOAs.

I put up a new shop with security lights down both sides and decorative lights on the end, out by the road. I plan on throwing the circuit breaker to kill those lights, our house is back in the woods and not very visible from the road. My transfer switch is at the shop, 115 feet from the house, but I don’t like the idea of people driving by and seeing that we have power, when it’s out. Honestly, I’d say the majority of people out here have generators. We are fenced in with two German Shepherds. I’m thinking more about civil riot type situations, than weather issues, tho fires are always an issue out west. I’ve thought about staying up at night walking the perimeter and napping during the day, if it really comes to that. The dogs will absolutely give us an early warning of any intruders. I have no problem stacking cordwood.

 

[loudgroove]

Because of the bad humans can and will do. The constitution gave the people the right to create government while also removing that government when it became oppressive. The laws also give property owners the right to create a self governing system of covenants, restrictions, and an HOA to maintain them while also requiring mechanisms to change or abolish them.

I find it interesting that many of the most vocal opponents of HOA’s live in the country on land. Living on .17 acres with 15 feet between houses is a different would.


This is not an HOA issue in any way. Let’s look at the letter that was sent, if it was real. (I used pic to text so may not be precise.)

Subject: Noise Complaint Regarding Generator Usage During Recent Power Outage


Dear Non-HOA Homeowner,


We are writing in response to several complaints received from HOA members regarding the recent power outage that affected the entire town. While we understand the challenges of a blackout, your actions during this time have raised concerns among the community.


During the outage, you ublized a gas-powered backup generator to restore power to your home.


While backup generators are not prohibited, the following issues were raised.


1. Excessive Noise: Multiple HOA members reported that your generator was loud and disruptive, causing undue disturbance throughout the neighborhood. Such noise during an already stressful situation aggravated the discomfort for those without power.


2. Perceived Unfairness: Several HOA members were frustrated by the fact that while the rest of the community was without power, you were seen watching the game on your tv.


• Consider a Quleter Alternative

Be mindful of neighbors.


We hope this letter serves as a reminder to maintain community hammony, even during challenging situations. If you have any questions or concerns, please feel free to contact us.


To me this letter was informing the property owner of the complaints received by the HOA from members while and asking for consideration while acknowledging they had no legal right to stop the use. It certainly does not seem overreach to send a third party a letter noting the complaints received. INGO told me that was an appropriate way to resolve issues between neighbors.

I own several generators and get both sides. I get it that neighbors likely are hot in a power outage, maybe trying to get a baby to sleep, and they have their windows open desperately trying to get a breeze while the neighbor has a 90db generator running all night with an additional 70db from the AC unit, while they have every right, can be seen watching TV while all the neighbors suffering.

As I said before. To each his own.

 

[loudgroove]

talk about a commute! how close is the nearest strip club from LaGrange?

An hour, but I don't believe she is stripping. But I do come and go at all hours with my sound job, and I notice she does the same at all hours. Don't know if she is parting ETC. And don't really care. lol

 

[Nazgul]

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[OneBadV8]

IBTL

 

[tcecil88]

I can't think of a single reason to love an HOA. I just bought a house in an quiet, older subdivision and am fortunate that there is no HOA. I wouldn't have bought it if there was. All the houses are of different architecture and colors. No two are the same. People fly their flags, plant whatever flowers they want and make their property their own, which is the way it should be.
The reason I don't want an HOA is simple. People need to mind their own business. My neighbors are mostly Veterans or are still serving. That is one of the things that attracted me to the neighborhood. They all maintain their property well and are respectful of others property.
I plan to put a generator in my house in case we lose power for several days. Even if I had an HOA I would do this. It's stupid to think an HOA can tell you that you can't have a generator in an emergency to power your home.
If other people are not prepared for emergencies, that's on them.
Just my 2, YMMV.

 

[Ingomike]

I can't think of a single reason to love an HOA.

Not a single one? Can you at least understand why others do want them?

I just bought a house in an quiet, older subdivision and am fortunate that there is no HOA. I wouldn't have bought it if there was. All the houses are of different architecture and colors. No two are the same. People fly their flags, plant whatever flowers they want and make their property their own, which is the way it should be.

How far apart are the homes? How big are the lots?

The reason I don't want an HOA is simple. People need to mind their own business. My neighbors are mostly Veterans or are still serving. That is one of the things that attracted me to the neighborhood. They all maintain their property well and are respectful of others property.

What happens when owners have homes on .17 acre lots and homes are 20 feet apart and they don’t maintain their property well and are respectful of others property?

I plan to put a generator in my house in case we lose power for several days. Even if I had an HOA I would do this. It's stupid to think an HOA can tell you that you can't have a generator in an emergency to power your home.
If other people are not prepared for emergencies, that's on them.
Just my 2, YMMV.

I have never seen covenants that restrict putting in a generator but I do expect there may be in the future as I also expect more code, insurance, regs, and enforcement on wiring connecting to house wiring, especially for DIY connections without a transfer switch.

 

[firecadet613]

Just saw this on Facebook...made me think of this thread.

 

[Cameramonkey]

100%! This is right! Most folks probably assumed the complaints were from entitled a-holes, what if neighbors complaining were in need of power for c-pac machines or other medical devices and the generator user was the one not looking “at someone else's plate is to make sure they have enough”?

Then that cpap or 02 user has the responsibility to handle their own affairs and also have a generator of some kind. its what responsible people do.

Responsible people dont tell others who planned for an emergency "Stop what you are doing because I didnt properly plan." Thats what effing communists do.

Some days I wonder about whether you just post to argue for argument's sake.

 

[foszoe]

Just saw this on Facebook...made me think of this thread.

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Now there's a guy getting KICKBACKS from the BUILDERS!

 

[KellyinAvon]

Are their actions opposed by a super majority? Simple majority? What do the covenants say? If a super majority oppose their actions get proxies from a super majority and send them on their way and put in sane folks the next election.

This often does occur when the good, honest, reasonable men decide to put it on autopilot and leave the door ajar for crazies to get in. Better the honest, reasonable men stay in control, and if one crazy does get on the board they quickly get them off and mitigate their damage than let them take over because they were too busy.

My wife or myself are on the board for that reason. We aren’t crazy and that’s important.

Having a retiree or 2 is good, but you need the younger folks to reel them in sometimes.

 

[Ingomike]

Now there's a guy getting KICKBACKS from the BUILDERS!

He is a realtor, builders pay them commissions…

 

[foszoe]

He is a realtor, builders pay them commissions…

an undisclosed commission is a kickback!

 

[Ingomike]

an undisclosed commission is a kickback!

He disclosed it in the post…

 

[foszoe]

He disclosed it in the post…

Ok I can't read! Or at least read that far down......wait that was what he was counting on@!

 

[firecadet613]

Ok I can't read! Or at least read that far down......wait that was what he was counting on@!

But what a sales pitch that guy has!

I will say, years ago my wife and I had looked at a newer neighborhood in Franklin Twp (Indy area). Thankfully, we didn't buy in there as it currently looks like the neighborhood he describes...

 

[Pepi]

People keeping up their property and no chickens should be the only rules

 

[foszoe]

But what a sales pitch that guy has!

I will say, years ago my wife and I had looked at a newer neighborhood in Franklin Twp (Indy area). Thankfully, we didn't buy in there as it currently looks like the neighborhood he describes...

You do realize I just had to admit to INGOMIke that I was wrong and he was right? Do you have any idea what that does to my psychological well being?

You don't have to quote THAT post and throw in my face over and over again!

I may not be able to post for awhile as I try to recover.

 

[firecadet613]

You do realize I just had to admit to INGOMIke that I was wrong and he was right? Do you have any idea what that does to my psychological well being?

You don't have to quote THAT post and throw in my face over and over again!

I may not be able to post for awhile as I try to recover.

Man oh man. @foszoe will never be the same again...