21 Sharp-New cartridge

[edwea]

Just saw this. Winchester released a new rimfire cartridge. OAL of a 22lr but with a non heeled bullet.

Please Welcome the 21 Sharp | Winchester Ammunition

winchester.com

 

[Mgderf]

Just saw this. Winchester released a new rimfire cartridge. OAL of a 22lr but with a non heeled bullet.

Please Welcome the 21 Sharp | Winchester Ammunition

winchester.com

Yet another ingenious solution to an all but nonexistent problem.

 

[gassprint1]

Watched the report about this on the outdoor channel i think wednesday. Wasn't impressed with it after researching more info. Everything was supposed to be 22lr components but won't work in a 22lr rifle. What's next, a 46acp or a 9.5mm cartridge. Anything to make money and gun nuts will always blow money on it. I didn't pay much attention on the round cost, but probably alot more than 22lr, just like 380 costs much more than 9mm which makes no sense being 380 is just a slightly shorter 9mm round.

 

[patience0830]

Watched the report about this on the outdoor channel i think wednesday. Wasn't impressed with it after researching more info. Everything was supposed to be 22lr components but won't work in a 22lr rifle. What's next, a 46acp or a 9.5mm cartridge. Anything to make money and gun nuts will always blow money on it. I didn't pay much attention on the round cost, but probably alot more than 22lr, just like 380 costs much more than 9mm which makes no sense being 380 is just a slightly shorter 9mm round.

Yup. Looks like a other experiment for the ash heap to me. If they'd made it to fit existing rifles, it would have a chance. Stupid.

 

[bgcatty]

Another “solution” for a “non-existent problem”!

 

[edwea]

My first thought too....
Considering the push on many places for lead free ammunition, this may be an effort to get in front of regulations that will prohibit traditional 22lr shooting.

 

[Bugzilla]

On the bright side you now have another reason to buy another gun and more ammo. I’ll pass.

 

[55fairlane]

I had a buddy tell me about this , my first thought was another 5mm rimfire? And then "the answer to a question that doesn't exist "
I do not follow the trends, so I do not have a cabinet full of oddballs no one wants.
I will believe in .21 when Anschutz adds them to their fleet of rifles

 

[daddyusmaximus]

If the non-healed bullets live up to the hype and are that much more accurate, the target & match shooters may pick up on it.

For the 95% of rimfire shooters who just like plinking or hunting, the .22lr will eat it's lunch.

 

[jwamplerusa]

I am interested in a "watch from a distance" way.

22LR, by modern standards, has many issues which degrade accuracy, effectiveness, and manufacturing. Among these are the heeled bullet which precludes a jacketed projectile.

For a 22LR competitor / replacement however; it will almost surely come down to cost per round with accuracy a secondary issue. Thus the rationale for using as many 22LR components and processes as possible.

Personally I think it would be good for the industry to move to a more modern cartridge design, but I don't believe there is any price elasticity to get there. When the move is made, I suspect it will be due to the price / regulation of lead changing the cost / benefit analysis artificially.

Since my marksmanship sucks, the accuracy potential is probably not going to matter to me. Someone like 55fairlane might notice, but I probably wouldn't.

 

[shootersix]

Gaston Glock…”Nobody can make a more useless caliber than 45 GAP!”

Winchester “Hold my brass!”

 

[ECS686]

I guess these corporations have forgotten about what happened to Coca-Cola in 1985 with that whole “new coke” BS!

At least with 30 Super carry it caused the support for the 32 H&R mag guys to ge the support they needed but the 21 Winchester thing I just don’t see it!

If that’s anyone’s thing good luck

 

[Wilhunt4fd]

This has all the feels of staying up late Saturday night at the honky tonk two steppin' Garth Brooks and waking up Sunday morning to Chris Gaines.

 

[edwea]

For a 22LR competitor / replacement however; it will almost surely come down to cost per round with accuracy a secondary issue. Thus the rationale for using as many 22LR components and processes as possible.

Personally I think it would be good for the industry to move to a more modern cartridge design, but I don't believe there is any price elasticity to get there.

Given the price of some high end match 22lr, it might warrant consideration if the accuracy is there.

 

[BigMoose]

And the new FAD cartridge of the month meme continues on giving.

The last one was that 8.6 whatever some on this forum gush on about.

I will stick to my old standards thank you.

 

[Gabriel]

Watched the report about this on the outdoor channel i think wednesday. Wasn't impressed with it after researching more info. Everything was supposed to be 22lr components but won't work in a 22lr rifle.

You'd just need to do a barrel swap.

I see this cartridge dying a quick death unless the price and/or accuracy are better than Eley Tenex.

 

[edwea]

And the new FAD cartridge of the month meme continues on giving.

The last one was that 8.6 whatever some on this forum gush on about.

I will stick to my old standards thank you.

Your old standards were all new fads at one time. I'm sure plenty old timers were saying "I'll stick my trusty old cap and ball thank you."

 

[KellyinAvon]

Your old standards were all new fads at one time. I'm sure plenty old timers were saying "I'll stick my trusty old cap and ball thank you."

Then 20 years later... "These whipper-snappers with their fancy-schmancy smokeless powder! I read in the paper that stuff will blow up yer Peacemaker."

I don't see .21 Sharp going anywhere... like off the shelves.