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    greg

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    Wonder how a restraining order or protective order will affect Constitutional Carry?

    With a permit it was revoked when a restraining order or protective order was filed against a permit holder!
     

    KellyinAvon

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    Wonder how a restraining order or protective order will affect Constitutional Carry?

    With a permit it was revoked when a restraining order or protective order was filed against a permit holder!
    Same as before: if you can't lawfully possess firearms, you can't carry either. You are "unlawfully carrying a handgun" under the new bill.
     

    Dean C.

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    Sent my email to Holcomb , going to mail a letter tommorow morning! I know it passes automatically if he does not sign, but I really don't want an veto over ride fight.
     

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    Here's a draft to aim at the Governor's Mansion.

    Governor Holcomb,

    Sign HB 1296 into law!!

    HB 1296 codifies the lawful carry of handguns, and comes at a time when the essential right of self-defense has never been more important. This bill affects the law-abiding citizens of Indiana, not the violent criminals who are overwhelmingly prohibited possessors of firearms, and don’t obey the law.

    At the beginning of the year there were 21 States with permit-less/no license carry of handguns. Our neighbor Ohio has a bill on the way to the Governor’s desk now. Those who opposed such legislation predicted dire consequences, as they do for any bill remotely considered Pro-2nd Amendment and Pro-Article 1, Section 32 of the Indiana Constitution. Observation shows this is not the case, as does data from FBI Uniform Crime Reporting.

    The law-abiding don’t commit crimes. Criminals commit crimes and are undeterred by licensing schemes. HB 1296 does not change the definition of “proper person” that currently exists, nor does it make it lawful to possess a firearm when an individual is currently a prohibited possessor.

    Over the past decade or so Indiana has passed a number of Pro-2nd Amendment and Pro-Article 1, Section 32 bills into law. These include: the law forbidding the prohibition of firearms stored in vehicles in employer’s parking lots (2010), the firearms law preemption statute (2011), allowing firearms to be stored in vehicles on school property (2014), allowing an individual with an order of protection against an abuser carry a handgun without a license (2017), the strengthening of the language and due process protections under the “Laird Law” (2019), and “Civil Immunity” and “Church Carry” (2019). Again, the dire consequences predicted by those who oppose any law that supports the Right to Keep and Bear Arms simply did not happen, and will not happen with the passage of HB 1296.

    Of the 21 States currently with Constitutional Carry of handguns, 20 previously had handgun licensing requirements. Zero States have reinstated the licensing requirement.

    In 2019 you signed House Bill 1284 into law while on stage at the National Rifle Association Annual Meeting of Members. This bill codified civil immunity for lawful self-defense, allowed carry of firearms at a worship service, and eliminated the State fees for the 5-year license to carry a handgun. On stage you stated, “Removing any and all barriers for lawful carry in our state is significant for the many Hoosier gun owners who want to protect themselves and others.” The NRA will be back in 2023.

    Thank you,

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    KellyinAvon

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    OK, now fill Governor Holcomb's in basket and phone lines with instructions to sign HB1296!

    Governor Eric Holcomb
    State House Room 206
    Indianapolis, IN 46204-2797
    Phone: 317/232-4567
    Fax: 317/232-3443

    I will make sure one goes out tonight, so it is waiting on his staff's desk in the morning.

    ETA:

    "Governor Eric Holcomb​
    State House Room 206​
    Indianapolis, IN 46204-2797​
    Phone: 317/232-4567​
    Fax: 317/232-3443​
    Governor Holcomb,​
    The Indiana Senate has, surprisingly, done the correct thing and passed HB 1296 containing the provisions of HB 1077. Though I am disgusted and disappointed with the members of the Indiana State Republican Party regarding their deceitful and anti-Constitutional behavior in the Senate, in the end they did vote to send HB 1296 to you.​
    I have traditionally and primarily voted for Republican Party candidates as the Republican Party platform and many associated candidates were those options which were closest to my ideals. The actions of yourself, through your staff member Superintendent Carter, and multiple Republican Senators demonstrated an utter lack of respect for their constituents the Constitution and the Republican Party Platform.​
    As a reminder, the Republican Party Platform states the following regarding the Second Amendment to the Constitution of the United States “...We support constitutional carry statutes and salute the states that have passed them.”. If you or other citizens of Indiana are going to run under the banner of the Republican Party, then the electorate has a reasonable expectation that you will adhere to the Party Platform. Actions to the contrary are simply and objectively intentional deceit of the voters of this State.​
    I am primarily a constitutionalist, who understands well this Nation is a Republic of Republics, where the people retain authority and power through their elected representatives. I expect, and indeed require, that those who represent me first adhere to the oath they took to the Constitution, and second to NOT subvert those documents. Those speaking on behalf of the State, such as Superintendent Carter, or on behalf of organizations should be accorded only a fraction the attention given to the people speaking as citizens to their elected representatives. Organizations do not vote, citizens vote!​
    It is now time for you to show that you ACTUALLY support the Republican Party Platform, and will ACT in accordance with your oath to the Constitution. Sign Constitutional / Permitless carry legislation HB 1296!​
    Indiana and the Indiana State Republican Party are reaching a crossroads, and need to take action to retain my vote for candidates supported by the Republican Party. Those candidates running under the Republican Party banner need to not only say the right things, they must demonstrate those behaviors by their actions and votes once elected. Multiple current sitting members of the Indiana Senate Judiciary committee have already demonstrated they do not deserve my vote. A veto of Constitutional carry on your part will confirm beyond redemption that you are unfit to hold further office in this State.
    The Indiana State Republican Party should endeavor to support only those who will honor their oath and legislate only within the confines and upon the principles of the Constitutions of Indiana and these United States. Prove you are worthy to be supported by the Republican Party and voters who support it's platform."​
    ETA2: FAX sent, result "OK". It will be waiting on the Governor's lacky in the morning. Come on ladies and gentlemen, run that thing out of paper by O dark 30!
    Bump 2!! Keep those calls, letters, and emails coming INGO! I think Eric is in DC... hiding out from 1296???
     

    BigMoose

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    Bump 2!! Keep those calls, letters, and emails coming INGO! I think Eric is in DC... hiding out from 1296???
    Hanging out with a lot of Ds, Biden, and corporate leaders on the Innovation and Competition Act

     

    dak109

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    And I'll ask again, what does Cummins have to do with Constitutional Carry? Have they publicly taken a position on it?
    I don’t know that they have on this issue. But they have taken very liberal stances on other issues that one wouldn’t think involved building engines. No, I don’t remember which ones. Glad to not work in that town anymore.
     

    MCgrease08

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    I don’t know that they have on this issue. But they have taken very liberal stances on other issues that one wouldn’t think involved building engines. No, I don’t remember which ones. Glad to not work in that town anymore.
    Just so I'm clear, the working theory is that the RINO from Columbus voted against CC because he was influenced by a company in his district, despite there being no evidence said company has a position on the legislation?

    I agree Cummins has veered outside it's lane on several issues. If they advocated against CC then they're open to criticism. But if it's just pure speculation than we're shifting responsibility from the legislator who voted against the rights of his constituents onto an evil corporation. That's a game democrats generally like to play and frankly, it's nonsense.
     

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    Greg Walker from Columbus was one of the others. Sucking up for that Cummins money, probably.
    Which is also in a round about way, money coming from Russia since they are still selling engines and parts to Russia and will continue to do so. Cummins owns Columbus and every one there knows this!
     

    Longhair

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    That's a question Walker could answer I'm sure, you won't find any info online about that. All I know for sure is they lean as far left as possible and push for many political decisions that have nothing to do with building engines.
     

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    That's a question Walker could answer I'm sure, you won't find any info online about that. All I know for sure is they lean as far left as possible and push for many political decisions that have nothing to do with building engines.
    Correct. Cummins leadership is super-woke, and they basically hold their presence in the area hostage to local politicians doing what they demand.
     

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    Just refreshing the links for contacting Holcomb and telling him to sign.

    Here's some ways to tell the Gov to sign HB 1296:
    https://www.in.gov/gov/ask-eric/?blm_aid=0

    Governor Eric Holcomb
    State House Room 206
    Indianapolis, IN 46204-2797
    Phone: 317/232-4567
    Fax: 317/232-3443

    And the NRA-ILA link:
     
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