17 year old kid shot dead by Neighborhood Watch "Captain"

[bobzilla]

So a sworn law enforcement officer said that he wanted a man's life ruined before there was any real investigation, without any due process in an open forum? That is really disturbing.

Not only that, but in a town with a wee bit of a reputation for pulling people over for DWB.

 

[griffin]

And now for something completely different.

Here's something I didn't hear about before last week. When the Black Panthers put a bounty on Zimmerman, he went out and bought another gun, an FNH Five-seveN! What a step up from his Kel-Tec!

FN Five-seveN: Zimmerman’s choice for Panthers « Bob Owens

 

[hornadylnl]

Yeah, M. was minding his own business wandering around the neighborhood in the rain and his fist just happened to hit Z. in the nose and then he tripped on top of Z. and his hands just got stuck on Z.s neck and he couldn't get them off while Z. bounced his own head on the concrete so he'd have an excuse to shoot M. That sounds "reasonable".

I'm sure Martin was acting on God's will.

 

[cobber]

Three days since the last post? BTT

 

[hornadylnl]

Since Barbara Walters shot him down, I take it he hasn't found any other news stations to whore himself out to.

 

[hornadylnl]

After you get done donating to George's website, you can go on over to his mommy and daddy's website to donate there.

Robert & Gladys | My Personal Web Site

 

[jedi]

WOW it's been 2 weeks and ya have finally settled down on this topic.

 

[Blackhawk2001]

WOW it's been 2 weeks and ya have finally settled down on this topic.

Not much else to talk about until the Judge rules on his "stand your ground" \self-defense hearing plea.

 

[hornadylnl]

Not much else to talk about until the Judge rules on his "stand your ground" \self-defense hearing plea.

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/08/zimmerman-team-stand-your-ground-doesnt-apply.html

In other news: he's almost broke and his lawyer hasn't been paid.

http://www.freep.com/article/20120815/NEWS07/120815023/George-Zimmerman-running-out-money-defense

 

[NYFelon]

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/08/zimmerman-team-stand-your-ground-doesnt-apply.html

In other news: he's almost broke and his lawyer hasn't been paid.

http://www.freep.com/article/20120815/NEWS07/120815023/George-Zimmerman-running-out-money-defense

They're still going to go ahead with the stand your ground hearing, after they try and have the judge trying Mr. Zimmerman changed. I believe his attorney has already filed that motion, based on the current judge "being biased" against Mr. Zimmerman.

 

[hornadylnl]

They're still going to go ahead with the stand your ground hearing, after they try and have the judge trying Mr. Zimmerman changed. I believe his attorney has already filed that motion, based on the current judge "being biased" against Mr. Zimmerman.

What judge is going to even hear a stand your ground hearing when the attorney representing him says himself that it doesn't fit?

 

[foszoe]

What judge is going to even hear a stand your ground hearing when the attorney representing him says himself that it doesn't fit?

I think the latest is they are NOT going to pursue the hearing option.

 

[figley]

I think the latest is they are NOT going to pursue the hearing option.

What I gleaned from MOM's most recent public statement, he believes GZ should be released on the grounds of classic self-defense.

My personal understanding is that SYG wording would still be instrumental in shielding GZ from further legal action, criminal or civil.

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, people, view, Mas Ayoob's, discussion of SYG laws, given at CATO. There really isn't a distinction between a SYG situation, and one of classic self-defense. To paraphrase, Ayoob, "Give me one instance, in which you would sooner shoot someone dead, when you could have retreated in complete safety.". If you could turn, and walk away from a confrontation, with no fear of injury, why wouldn't you?

 

[Blackhawk2001]

What I gleaned from MOM's most recent public statement, he believes GZ should be released on the grounds of classic self-defense.

My personal understanding is that SYG wording would still be instrumental in shielding GZ from further legal action, criminal or civil.

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, people, view, Mas Ayoob's, discussion of SYG laws, given at CATO. There really isn't a distinction between a SYG situation, and one of classic self-defense. To paraphrase, Ayoob, "Give me one instance, in which you would sooner shoot someone dead, when you could have retreated in complete safety.". If you could turn, and walk away from a confrontation, with no fear of injury, why wouldn't you?

I'd say it's the difference between turning your back and running away from a perceived deadly threat and staying put to end the threat.

 

[griffin]

Defense gets Trayvon's school and web records; trial date set

Zimmerman gets access to all of Trayvon Martin's school records and social media postings to see if there is any evidence that he had violent tendencies.

Trial set for June 2013. Hearing on self-defense will be a few months before.

Judge: Zimmerman defense can see Martin records - Yahoo! News

 

[terrehautian]

I bet the Martin people are going crazy.

 

[griffin]

The Martin people are crazy. They've been that way since day one.

 

[DragonGunner]

Is Zimerman still being held? June is a long time.....espicially "if" he is found not guilty.

 

[Willie]

He is out in bail.

 

[churchmouse]

This will set precedence legally. So many mistakes made from the initial arrest. The race card has been out of the deck from day one.
My son in law to be is a young man of color. When we go to the range and I am working with him and his friends the standard joke when I push them for excellence is "Don't make me go Travon on you" This is done with a smile and a chuckle. It makes so many look and wonder.