17 year old kid shot dead by Neighborhood Watch "Captain"

[gunowner930]

If that's the case then it would be highly unethical on the part of the prosecutor.

Alan Dershowitz has done several interviews where he has stated that the affadavit for the prosecution is a joke, and he elaborated on the possibility that the prosecutor could find herself in her own legal trouble after the dust has settled here.

I know we haven't seen all of the evidence yet, but I have seen nothing which contradicts Zimmerman's story.

 

[gunowner930]

When prosecutors are elected, they are subject to political pressure, and sometimes they may prosecute based on politics rather than evidence.

 

[Glock19]

And what happens when the HOA gets sued, and loses. The HOA's money comes from the dues, which come from the residents. Insurance only covers so much money. Usually just the legal bare minimum regardless of what state it is. Our HOA policy page in both states Ive owned houses in has no "hold harmless" addendums. I gather that is the case for pretty much every state. Someone is always held accountable and the residents are ultimately the employers of the HOA and its "official" cronies.

The HOA is the corporation, not the residents. The dues would go towards the payment as well as insurance, then the HOA would be bankrupt. Thats it. The only reason I know this for a fact is thats what happened in my HOA. It went bankrupt and the city was forced to take it in. Meaning the city took care of the streets and stuff instead of the HOA. The residents arent the HOAs bank or whatever. The HOA runs out of money then its broke. They dont get to start raising the fees all of a sudden or collecting peoples wages...comeon...
And the residents are in no way shape or form employed by the HOA just for living there... even the HOAs I've lived in, all the boards are volunteers..

 

[churchmouse]

This may be true, but I think it's just as likely that the prosecutor charged Zimmerman with murder 2 because they were worried about riots for a lesser charge.

That is the racial pressure I was referring to.

 

[semperfi211]

U.S. News - Newspaper: 4 witnesses change stories in Trayvon Martin shooting
I don't trust MSNBC much. One witness said Z was on M. Could that be after the shot and he rolled M off of him and MSNBC left that part out?

 

[CarmelHP]

Geez, I wonder why witnesses who first gave one account, would change their stories after threats of violence? Curious.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Geez, I wonder why witnesses who first gave one account, would change their stories after threats of violence? Curious.

Funny how lynch mobs can persuade people to change their minds.

 

[Kutnupe14]

U.S. News - Newspaper: 4 witnesses change stories in Trayvon Martin shooting
I don't trust MSNBC much. One witness said Z was on M. Could that be after the shot and he rolled M off of him and MSNBC left that part out?

What I find interesting about that article, is that witness 1's ORIGINAL story, she states that she saw "two men running." That changes the dynamic, if it implies that Zimmerman was chasing Martin.

 

[Roadie]

What I find interesting about that article, is that witness 1's ORIGINAL story, she states that she saw "two men running." That changes the dynamic, if it implies that Zimmerman was chasing Martin.

It does?

Couldn't it also imply that Martin was chasing Zimmerman?

 

[Kutnupe14]

It does?

Couldn't it also imply that Martin was chasing Zimmerman?

Hence the word "if" in my previous post. However, I haven't seen the defense articulate anywhere that Zimmerman was fleeing from Martin.

We are are in agreement that Martin took note of Zimmerman (ie that he was aware at the very least of being watched by him), correct? We are also, all in agreement that Martin and Zimmerman were unknown to each other, correct?

Now IF Martin was NOT doing anything wrong (which I won't argue about, but "if") and IF Zimmerman was chasing him, would that not change the situation significantly?

There's no "gotcha" moment in the question. I would just like to hear honest responses (not holding my breath, tho).

 

[Expat]

Funny how lynch mobs can persuade people to change their minds.

And our own leaders of the local lynch mob continue to beat the drum...
I said a month ago that I would no longer believe anything that comes out. There is too much money and power being exerted now.

 

[KLB]

Eyewitnesses are not exactly reliable to begin with. Give them a couple of months of being told what happened and their stories are bound to change right along with their "memories".

 

[CarmelHP]

Hence the word "if" in my previous post. However, I haven't seen the defense articulate anywhere that Zimmerman was fleeing from Martin.

We are are in agreement that Martin took note of Zimmerman (ie that he was aware at the very least of being watched by him), correct? We are also, all in agreement that Martin and Zimmerman were unknown to each other, correct?

Now IF Martin was NOT doing anything wrong (which I won't argue about, but "if") and IF Zimmerman was chasing him, would that not change the situation significantly?

There's no "gotcha" moment in the question. I would just like to hear honest responses (not holding my breath, tho).

Is there no straw for which you will not grasp?

 

[griffin]

That changes the dynamic, if it implies that Zimmerman was chasing Martin.

How does that fit in with what the police have said, that no evidence or eyewitness testimony contradicts Zimmerman's story?

 

[Hotdoger]

Hence the word "if" in my previous post. However, I haven't seen the defense articulate anywhere that Zimmerman was fleeing from Martin.

We are are in agreement that Martin took note of Zimmerman (ie that he was aware at the very least of being watched by him), correct? We are also, all in agreement that Martin and Zimmerman were unknown to each other, correct?

Now IF Martin was NOT doing anything wrong (which I won't argue about, but "if") and IF Zimmerman was chasing him, would that not change the situation significantly?

There's no "gotcha" moment in the question. I would just like to hear honest responses (not holding my breath, tho).

Honest?

How about admiting that is seems that Martian ended up pursuing and confronting Zimmerman?

 

[Kutnupe14]

So no one is going to answer the question posed?

 

[Kutnupe14]

How does that fit in with what the police have said, that no evidence or eyewitness testimony contradicts Zimmerman's story?

That's witnesses testimony may be false; ae may have constructed the entire thing after the fact based on what she "thought" she saw. I'm not saying her recollection is valid. I simply posed a question and asked for it to be answered. As of this point no one will.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Honest?

How about admiting that is seems that Martian ended up pursuing and confronting Zimmerman?

based on? (specifics please).

 

[KLB]

That's witnesses testimony may be false; ae may have constructed the entire thing after the fact based on what she "thought" she saw. I'm not saying her recollection is valid. I simply posed a question and asked for it to be answered. As of this point no one will.

Sounded like a rhetorical question to me. Why would you want someone to answer it when you already know the answer?

 

[bobzilla]

Hence the word "if" in my previous post. However, I haven't seen the defense articulate anywhere that Zimmerman was fleeing from Martin.

We are are in agreement that Martin took note of Zimmerman (ie that he was aware at the very least of being watched by him), correct? We are also, all in agreement that Martin and Zimmerman were unknown to each other, correct?

Now IF Martin was NOT doing anything wrong (which I won't argue about, but "if") and IF Zimmerman was chasing him, would that not change the situation significantly?

There's no "gotcha" moment in the question. I would just like to hear honest responses (not holding my breath, tho).

Absolutely. And IF a monkey farts in a whirlwind in the middle of Times SQuare on new year's eve with a hundred onlookers could a ginger be part of them?

You put enough "if's" into any conversation and it changes the situation.