You have one month to prepare.

[jeremy]

First off. I have french toast.

Second. Jeremy, think beyond beer. You need to be self sufficient. If you have wheat, a little sugar/maple syrup/honey/molassass, dried hop pellets, some ale yeast and clean water. You have beer. Forever. Come on man.

I have the Makings stored and I have a "wild" plot that I maintain for the grains...

I am using the Shiner Bock as my it takes 2-3 weeks to brew a batch standby...
I need to figure out how many People might be stopping by, might have to add more cases of Beer to the SHTF Kit...

Sailor and Jahred. After the balloon goes up and the SHTF, we are having a cocktail party at my bunker. Probably vodka and tonics, so bring the olives and those little onions.

Is Bourbon a Cocktail?!
How about if I bring a Bottle of Basil Haydens?!

ChrstianIndy. We should start a post SHTF fantasy football league. Regardless, I keep my old Wilson Duke football around. It will be good to get up a game with the zombies. They move slow.

Hey Zombies are not the only things slow in life...

 

[jeremy]

I am gonna be pissed if the S doesn't HTF this time.

I went through this **** in the early 90s and Y2K and if I get Charlie Brown'ed again, there will be hell to pay. I'm getting to old to give a **** much longer!

I was so mad when I woke up after Y2K...
I had the worst hangover ever...

 

[Sailor]

Is Bourbon a Cocktail?!
How about if I bring a Bottle of Basil Haydens?!

Your in, we don't discriminate on alcohol.

 

[jeremy]

Your in, we don't discriminate on alcohol.

I'll make sure to knock over a couple of Liquor Stores on my way there...

 

[Gamez235]

If Mountain House did potato chips and pork rinds...

 

[Stschil]

If Mountain House did potato chips and pork rinds...

That's what gamma seal lids and decicant packets are for, silly.


As for the brew. Yeast, corn and copper line, gentlemen. Why wait for beer? . Plus, it's a good antiseptic.

 

[PistolBob]

As for the brew. Yeast, corn and copper line, gentlemen. Why wait for beer? . Plus, it's a good antiseptic.

Uh, you're gonna need some sugar too.

 

[Stschil]

Uh, you're gonna need some sugar too.

Good call, sounds like a COSTCO trip is in the works.

 

[ultraspec]

I am gonna be pissed if the S doesn't HTF this time.

I went through this **** in the early 90s and Y2K and if I get Charlie Brown'ed again, there will be hell to pay. I'm getting to old to give a **** much longer!

I'll make sure to knock over a couple of Liquor Stores on my way there...

Man you guys have me lmao over here.

 

[Silverado]

I am gonna be pissed if the S doesn't HTF this time.

I went through this **** in the early 90s and Y2K and if I get Charlie Brown'ed again, there will be hell to pay. I'm getting to old to give a **** much longer!

I have a feeling you're gonna get Charlie Brown'd again.

I've been hearing this crap for 20+ years. Our nation is always teetering on the brink of disaster, and the next election is the most important in the history of mankind.

Uh huh. Sure.

 

[RockofStrength]

I have a feeling you're gonna get Charlie Brown'd again.

I've been hearing this crap for 20+ years. Our nation is always teetering on the brink of disaster, and the next election is the most important in the history of mankind.

Uh huh. Sure.

Not to be snide, but eventually they'll be right, you know.

 

[ATOMonkey]

There are several contributing factors that make the current state of affairs pretty darn bad compared to the Civil War and the Great Depression.

1) Debt level. While there have been several times where debt was more than GDP, I think we've eclipsed the high water mark, even percentage wise.

2) The number of people on government assistance. Even during the FDR reign of terror there weren't this many people on the cheese.

3) The number of people with no skills. With the shift of labor from agrarian, to manufacturing, to service, the number of people with actual "survival skils" is quite minimal. That means more people looking for help than any other time.

4) The size of the population. Let's face it. There are 330 million people who will need someone to take care of them, and that's a damn big number.

5) No gold standard, not even a pretend one.

The longer we continue this socialist experiment funded with a fiat currency, the worse things will get. It simply is just a matter of time.

 

[miguel]

That's what gamma seal lids and decicant packets are for, silly.

Aren't pork rinds and potato chips like AK-47s? They last forever and still perform their duty when called upon to do so?

 

[smokingman]

There are several contributing factors that make the current state of affairs pretty darn bad compared to the Civil War and the Great Depression.

1) Debt level. While there have been several times where debt was more than GDP, I think we've eclipsed the high water mark, even percentage wise.

2) The number of people on government assistance. Even during the FDR reign of terror there weren't this many people on the cheese.

3) The number of people with no skills. With the shift of labor from agrarian, to manufacturing, to service, the number of people with actual "survival skils" is quite minimal. That means more people looking for help than any other time.

4) The size of the population. Let's face it. There are 330 million people who will need someone to take care of them, and that's a damn big number.

5) No gold standard, not even a pretend one.

The longer we continue this socialist experiment funded with a fiat currency, the worse things will get. It simply is just a matter of time.

You forgot a few.

6)Housing has already fallen a greater percentage than during the great depression,and is still going down.

7)Manufacturing/imports. The balance is long gone.

8)Jobs(see 7)

9)Energy dependance/Financial wealth being exported to feed our energy needs.

10)Federal Reserve Bank/corp with more power(power to lend 16 trillion to banks in 3 years)than ever before.

11)No self reliance.

 

[Lex Concord]

Wow, I get an entire month?

Lets see, what do I need? Probably should get some mints, and some cocktail napkins. I need more of those little toothpick things that you stick in cheese cubes and swedish meatballs.

Ice, I'll need ice.

And a jar of aloe night cream for my eye wrinkles.

I think I'm all set.

We all know you'll be ready for the party

Just don't forget the little cocktail weenies

 

[Lex Concord]

your right, This is not a great depression yet, where unemployment was 25%

The pre-recession unemployment rate in march 2007 was 4.4%
At the peak of the recession in 2009, unemployment was slightly above 10%
That means the last recession caused unemployment to more than double!

Right now our unemployment rate is at 9.1....so they say.
If you believe we are in a recession right now, that could mean that the peak of this recession could double our current to 18.2%.....or more!

19% unemployment will smell like a great depression....
Bring your own beer!

Unemployment calculations are far different than in the depression. The closest number we have today to Depression-era calculations is U6, though there are some differences which simply can't be accounted for due to the significant differences in the nature of the labor market.

That said, U6 sill "only" peaked around 17%...back in late '09.

 

[Lex Concord]

Aren't pork rinds and potato chips like AK-47s? They last forever and still perform their duty when called upon to do so?

Yep, even after being dropped in the mud and stepped on.

 

[Lead Head]

I'm amazed gas is not $35 a gallon, trucking companies have not shut down and the stores can keep the shelves stocked.............

If the transportation industry (commercial trucks, trains, airplanes, etc.) stopped for three days, this country would be on its knees.

Looting in London would at best look like Friday night entertainment.

What freight did move would be hi-jacked and if by some Mad Max kind of wild ride it made it to its destination, the adjustment for inflation could only be afforded by the mega wealthy.

Ok now, breaks over, everyone back on their head.

 

[Hemingway]

Unemployment calculations are far different than in the depression. The closest number we have today to Depression-era calculations is U6, though there are some differences which simply can't be accounted for due to the significant differences in the nature of the labor market.

That said, U6 sill "only" peaked around 17%...back in late '09.

You, sir, are a learned man. Not many people could pull out that measurement reference.

Do they make that Ron Paul Revolution thing in bumper stickers? I'd like to get some.

 

[ar15_dude]

You forgot a few.

6)Housing has already fallen a greater percentage than during the great depression,and is still going down.

7)Manufacturing/imports. The balance is long gone.

8)Jobs(see 7)

9)Energy dependance/Financial wealth being exported to feed our energy needs.

10)Federal Reserve Bank/corp with more power(power to lend 16 trillion to banks in 3 years)than ever before.

11)No self reliance.

NIce list guys. I'd like to suggest a few more:

12) Americans are armed to the teeth...lots of firepower in the hands of the unprepared and evil

13) Urbanization: too many people crammed into too small, unsustainable area.

14) Fatherless families: rogue males turn to crime / become predators, women and welfare kids become pushy beggars or hookers.