Wilson Combat 1911 .45 for how much? no way! no really, that much?

[MikeDVB]

I have the shock buffer in my WC but it came with it - and cycles beautifully. It's not slamming against the buffer very hard as I have a couple thousand rounds through it and the buffer still looks good.

One can avoid the use of the buffer if they get the right spring for the loads they're shooting but using the buffer does allow a little more 'leeway' when it comes to choosing a load without having to swap out the recoil spring to keep from battering the frame.

Only issues I've ever had with the gun not locking back was when I used cheap/crappy mags. I also have a nice set of WC magazines that have never given me problems [in any 1911].

 

[88E30M50]

you can't compare a production gun to a hand fitted gun.......i have never seen a RI with a better fitted barrel than a Colt......unless someone hand fitted it....

I know it's an apples to oranges comparison, but the bull barrel in my Rock Island has zero detectible play between the barrel and slide when in battery. My Colt on the other hand, had .008 vertical play when in battery between the barrel and slide, though the bushing. I ordered a custom EGW bushing to clean it up. Most of my production guns have a couple of thousandths play at best, but the Colt fit was way more loose. To that, add the cratered roll marks and tool marks and it just does not add up to a $900 product when Remington is able to produce a better fit pistol for over $200 less. I love all of my 1911s and maybe love the ones I need to tweak a bit more than the ones that were perfect from the factory. There is a level of satisfaction that comes from taking part in getting a gun to run perfectly.

If I were ever able to afford the WC in the original post, I'm sure I could get used to owning the results of someone elses efforts. It would be hard, but I'd just have to tough it out and enjoy it as received.

 

[churchmouse]

I know it's an apples to oranges comparison, but the bull barrel in my Rock Island has zero detectible play between the barrel and slide when in battery. My Colt on the other hand, had .008 vertical play when in battery between the barrel and slide, though the bushing. I ordered a custom EGW bushing to clean it up. Most of my production guns have a couple of thousandths play at best, but the Colt fit was way more loose. To that, add the cratered roll marks and tool marks and it just does not add up to a $900 product when Remington is able to produce a better fit pistol for over $200 less. I love all of my 1911s and maybe love the ones I need to tweak a bit more than the ones that were perfect from the factory. There is a level of satisfaction that comes from taking part in getting a gun to run perfectly.

If I were ever able to afford the WC in the original post, I'm sure I could get used to owning the results of someone elses efforts. It would be hard, but I'd just have to tough it out and enjoy it as received.

The last 4 Colts I have done any work to were very sloppy barrel to bush fit. The triggers were crap as well. Maybe I just have high standards but a butt load of creep and pulled off at over 5 1/2 lbs.
Some genuine love and attention brought them up to speed but out of the box.....

 

[MikeDVB]

5.5 pounds on a 1911... Ouch.

 

[SERparacord]

The last 4 Colts I have done any work to were very sloppy barrel to bush fit. The triggers were crap as well. Maybe I just have high standards but a butt load of creep and pulled off at over 5 1/2 lbs.
Some genuine love and attention brought them up to speed but out of the box.....:POOP:

Colts have always been shoddy from the factory. I carried one in Nam that an armorer had made up out of 12 1911's, it was pretty decent.

 

[churchmouse]

4) Why doesn’t my pistol always reliably lock back when empty?
Even though we use the strongest magazine springs in the industry, some pistols have such excessive tolerances in the magazine well–slidestop internal lobe area that some magazines will not reliably lock back on empty even when new. This is a known problem with some Springfield Armory pistols. You may need to have a gunsmith replace, polish or fit your slide stop for proper function. This may also be an indication that your springs need replacing.

Wilson Combat?s Guide to 1911 Magazine Troubleshooting

Good info. Thanks.
The gun mentioned only had issue with those 2 mags. Ran great on all the other 40 or so.

 

[MikeDVB]

I've seen more bad mags than I've seen bad 1911s [even cheap 1911s].

 

[SERparacord]

Good info. Thanks.
The gun mentioned only had issue with those 2 mags. Ran great on all the other 40 or so.

40! I thought I had too many at 30.

 

[SERparacord]

I've seen more bad mags than I've seen bad 1911s [even cheap 1911s].

I have a drawer full of factory mags.

 

[churchmouse]

40! I thought I had too many at 30.

That is just the good WC and CM pieces. I must have as many factory mags in a box somewhere. Never use them.

 

[SERparacord]

That is just the good WC and CM pieces. I must have as many factory mags in a box somewhere. Never use them.

Same here. I just keep the factory mags in case I sell a 1911.

 

[churchmouse]

Same here. I just keep the factory mags in case I sell a 1911.

I sold a S&W 1911PD last year and the new owner was pissed when the factory mags would not run well in the gun. I told him I never used those mags. He stepped up to some CM's and it ran just fine.

 

[SERparacord]

I sold a S&W 1911PD last year and the new owner was pissed when the factory mags would not run well in the gun. I told him I never used those mags. He stepped up to some CM's and it ran just fine.

lol They learn fast the factory doesn't spend a lot of time on mag design.

 

[rockhopper46038]

So, to bring this full circle, if one had the opportunity to purchase say, Wilson Combat | Tactical Elite, for say, $2000; would you do it?

 

[VERT]

So, to bring this full circle, if one had the opportunity to purchase say, Wilson Combat | Tactical Elite, for say, $2000; would you do it?

Yes. Please PM me were it is. I will drive to pick it up with cash.

 

[SERparacord]

So, to bring this full circle, if one had the opportunity to purchase say, Wilson Combat | Tactical Elite, for say, $2000; would you do it?

No, the person is obviously crazy and I don't buy weapons from crazies.

 

[ghitch75]

So, to bring this full circle, if one had the opportunity to purchase say, Wilson Combat | Tactical Elite, for say, $2000; would you do it?

yes 2k would be a fine deal!!!!

 

[SERparacord]

Another used Wilson......

Supergrade Compact 45
Round Butt
Unfired
CCH Turnbull
Carry and Ball Cuts
Slimline bushings
Beveled slide stop
G10, ivory and buffalo horn grips

$6900.00

 

[palerider0485]

lets be honest now, compare that 7000 dollar wilson to a 700 dollar glock 21. the Wilson shoots one half inch better at 25 yards but is very ammo picky and requires a break in period to stop jamming.

 

[MikeDVB]

lets be honest now, compare that 7000 dollar wilson to a 700 dollar glock 21. the Wilson shoots one half inch better at 25 yards but is very ammo picky and requires a break in period to stop jamming.

My Wilson Combat never jammed although they do tell you not to clean it for the first 750~1000 rounds so but that's due to the extreme precision and small tolerances.

That said - comparing a $700 mass-produced polymer firearm to a hand-assembled and fitted all-metal gun is about as apples to tires as one can get. [Yes, tires instead of oranges - it's that absurd a comparison].

My 1911 wasn't $7k it was $2,700 and it has been absolutely flawless.