WHYYYYY are you giving in to these .22lr gougers!?

[Bunnykid68]

Because the price of gold etc is actually set by supply and demand, preventing consumption driven shortages, for the purpose of investment or otherwise.

But apparently with ammo, that's not allowed for some reason.

So people will insist that the price of 22lr remain below its market value, then complain when you buy it in larger quantities because of such.

So you are saying that the manufacturers just need to raise their rates so that when Walmat sells a box that they must ask $45 to make money. I think the manufactures are happy selling their product right now the way it is because they know the demand is still artificial otherwise they would expand production to make sure the shelves were filled, they know better.

If every hoarder/flipper/gouger quit buying tomorrow there would be tons of gougers sitting on tons of ammo they couldnt sell and then magically I would be able to buy a brick of 22 for $20 at Gander Mountain and Walmart.

 

[Bunnykid68]

1) Who here needs a box of 22 but cannot find any?

2) Are you willing to pay the $50 for the ammo?

3)If not, then you don't really need it do you?

 

[LEaSH]

1) Who here needs a box of 22 but cannot find any?

2) Are you willing to pay the $50 for the ammo?

3)If not, then you don't really need it do you?

Need

 

[Bunnykid68]

Need

You are to far away for me to help

 

[sb0]

So you are saying that the manufacturers just need to raise their rates so that when Walmat sells a box that they must ask $45 to make money. I think the manufactures are happy selling their product right now the way it is because they know the demand is still artificial otherwise they would expand production to make sure the shelves were filled, they know better.

If every hoarder/flipper/gouger quit buying tomorrow there would be tons of gougers sitting on tons of ammo they couldnt sell and then magically I would be able to buy a brick of 22 for $20 at Gander Mountain and Walmart.

Manufacturers need to raise their rates, and use the extra money to increase production, which they otherwise would not do to respond to a temporary spike in demand.

As it stands now people are still paying gouger prices, but that money is going into the pockets of gougers rather than into production. Thanks to consumer ignorance regarding pricing. Manufacturers don't want to get on their bad side, no matter how misinformed they may be.

If every flipper and gouger quit buying, Walmart would be just as empty. If people are keeping gougers in business at $50, they'll clear Walmart's shelves at $20 in no time.

If hoarders and consumer stopped buying, sure, you'd be able to find it. But that's not going to happen. That's the demand we're talking about.

 

[sb0]

3)If not, then you don't really need it do you?

Because need is relative here. If you're not willing to pay market pricing, you obviously don't need it as bad as the general consumer demographic does. So, you don't get it.

 

[hornadylnl]

Because need is relative here. If you're not willing to pay market pricing, you obviously don't need it as bad as the general consumer demographic does. So, you don't get it.

You'd think if the shooting sports were as important as many here claim it is, they'd pay it.

 

[stinkypete111]

I gouge. haha. I am a poor college student in need of extra money to pay for rent. I have bought at least 40 boxes of ammo from Walmart in the early hours and sold them for about 2 times what I paid. I have paid for a few months in rent doing this. Every time I have sold 22lr ammo, the person buying from me was happy to get their hands on some ammo. I will continue doing this for as long as I can. Suck it up and stop whining.

 

[Bunnykid68]

Manufacturers need to raise their rates, and use the extra money to increase production, which they otherwise would not do to respond to a temporary spike in demand.

As it stands now people are still paying gouger prices, but that money is going into the pockets of gougers rather than into production. Thanks to consumer ignorance regarding pricing. Manufacturers don't want to get on their bad side, no matter how misinformed they may be.

If every flipper and gouger quit buying, Walmart would be just as empty. If people are keeping gougers in business at $50, they'll clear Walmart's shelves at $20 in no time.

If hoarders and consumer stopped buying, sure, you'd be able to find it. But that's not going to happen. That's the demand we're talking about.

Man, guess those manufactures don't know how to run a business then. Like I said, it would be fool hardy for them to invest money to ramp up production with the amount they are selling now. 100% on their parts and they have nothing sitting on the shelves. Why invest 10's of 1000's of dollars when they know it will not keep up.

I truly trust they know what they are doing and that is exactly why they have not added other lines to make this product.

 

[Bunnykid68]

I gouge. haha. I am a poor college student in need of extra money to pay for rent.

You are going to owe an awful lot of taxes and fines for being an ammo distributor, the government wants their cut

 

[shibumiseeker]

Man, guess those manufactures don't know how to run a business then. Like I said, it would be fool hardy for them to invest money to ramp up production with the amount they are selling now. 100% on their parts and they have nothing sitting on the shelves. Why invest 10's of 1000's of dollars when they know it will not keep up.

I truly trust they know what they are doing and that is exactly why they have not added other lines to make this product.

If I had a dollar for every time someone with no experience in my business told me how I could run it better, I'd have retired a long time ago.

 

[Bunnykid68]

If I had a dollar for every time someone with no experience in my business told me how I could run it better, I'd have retired a long time ago.

But I really could help ya, if you would JUST listen

I could barely type that with a straight face.

 

[stinkypete111]

You are going to owe an awful lot of taxes and fines for being an ammo distributor, the government wants their cut

Because whatever mister 20,000 posts says is true. Ha. No way the government can regulate my cash flow. I sell for cash and use that cash to pay for groceries gas etc. Totalling a few months worth of rent.

 

[Bunnykid68]

Because whatever mister 20,000 posts says is true. Ha. No way the government can regulate my cash flow. I sell for cash and use that cash to pay for groceries gas etc. Totalling a few months worth of rent.

If you using Armslist, Gunbroker or something similar dont think for a minute you couldnt be busted. If you are all FTF I would like to know how you market to people, in general nothing specific.

How is my post count relevant? If you would read a lot of mine you would see they are mostly idle chat amongst friends, so how could it possibly be relevant.

 

[shibumiseeker]

How is my post count relevant? If you would read a lot of mine you would see they are mostly idle chat amongst friends...

Is THAT what you kids are calling it these days?

 

[sb0]

Man, guess those manufactures don't know how to run a business then. Like I said, it would be fool hardy for them to invest money to ramp up production with the amount they are selling now. 100% on their parts and they have nothing sitting on the shelves. Why invest 10's of 1000's of dollars when they know it will not keep up.

I truly trust they know what they are doing and that is exactly why they have not added other lines to make this product.

Total misinterpretation of my point but okay.

Manufacturers are in a bind, for reasons I very clearly stated.

 

[sb0]

If I had a dollar for every time someone with no experience in my business told me how I could run it better, I'd have retired a long time ago.

And if I had a dollar for every time someone misinterpreted my statements...

Manufacturers can't increase production in any substantial manner - but if irrational consumers would wise up, they'd be in a better position to do so than they are now, relatively. Of course feel free to explain why money going into the pockets of gougers over manufacturers is better?

 

[mike45]

Hey I have some $50 30 rd pmags I would like to sell to just break even man...........................wont gouge you a dime.....

 

[stinkypete111]

If you using Armslist, Gunbroker or something similar dont think for a minute you couldnt be busted. If you are all FTF I would like to know how you market to people, in general nothing specific.


I have fake emails , fake names , and post online on local online ads.

 

[jamil]

I don't think manufacturers need to increase production. If you want it, then pay for it, or do what the flippers are doing for you; get up early and often and hang out at the big box stores.

Bunny, I agree with you about this part, manufacturers don't seem to want to invest in a lot of new equipment or labor. At some point this has to even out, even with the big box stores selling it cheap. When it does, a lot of people wanting to turn a profit are going to be stuck with ammo that isn't worth near what they paid for it.

I'm just saying that **everyone** charging market prices will get this to level off earlier. Not gouging, but market price. You'd see fewer people flipping and fewer people hoarding.