Why Should Anyone Vote For Trump ?

[EXTREMEMACHINE01]

Who knows what will happen.

 

[MisterChester]

I will vote for Trump, here are a few reasons:

1. He's an entrepreneur.
2. He's anti-establishment.
3. He's anti-illegal immigration
4. He's anti-aggrievment.
5. He's not a Bible-thumping Republican
6. He's the only Republican against our disastrous trade deals.

 

[T.Lex]

(Didn't ignore the red comments, just that your quoted material has the only points that interest me. The red stuff is covered in the bazillion other Trump threads.)

So why should I vote for Cruze?

Without question, this cycle is the most pungent of any in living memory. The only thing voting Americans will be united about - across party lines - is holding our noses.

I believe Cruz to be the least of political evils. Followed by Sanders, because he's so far out there no one in Congress will follow him. Followed by Clinton, whose followers will fall along familiar lines. Followed by Trump, who presents the greatest, unmitigable risk - the risk of the unknown.

Something needs to change.

Said every Obama voter.

 

[phylodog]

We can agree to disagree but considering Hillary above Trump is well beyond my comprehension.

Hopefully at least a few of the Obama voters have come to realize the error in their way of thinking. Optimistic I know, shouldn't really expect liberals to understand much.

 

[seedubs1]

<<< I'll be voting for Trump because of my avatar.

 

[T.Lex]

We can agree to disagree but considering Hillary above Trump is well beyond my comprehension.

And I have trouble understanding the other way around.

 

[Kutnupe14]

And I have trouble understanding the other way around.

ditto

 

[phylodog]

Must be the overwhelming evidence of Hillary being an honest, law abiding, hard working member of society who has nothing but the nations best interests at heart.

I've had candid conversations with a couple of men who were very close and spent a significant amount of time with her. There is quite literally nothing about that woman that isn't disgusting.

Probably means she'll be the next President. This country has gone just that far down the ****hole.

 

[T.Lex]

Must be the overwhelming evidence of Hillary being an honest, law abiding, hard working member of society who has nothing but the nations best interests at heart.

I've had candid conversations with a couple of men who were very close and spent a significant amount of time with her. There is quite literally nothing about that woman that isn't disgusting.

Because we (collectively) know so much about her is why I find her less dangerous than Trump. The devil-you-know gambit.

With Clinton, we already know the battlefields, the tactics, the strategies, and the goals. We know how to defend those, and have done so successfully before.

With Trump, the fog of war is thick. We don't know what we don't know. In terms of risk, that is much worse.

 

[phylodog]

If we knew how to defeat her she'd be under indictment for several of her actions. No one in Washington has the balls to go after her, no one with the power anyway.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

I don't like Trump. He's a blowhard and from what I've seen, a bully. He doesn't know how to work WITH people, he only knows how to make people work for him. Since there is no legal slavery in this country, though, and people can work elsewhere if they choose, what he knows how to do is to make people *want to* work for him. That is a skill that has been lacking in every national-office politician I've seen so far.

Blessings,
Bill

Bill I wouldn't say he makes people want to work for him in the general sense. I worked for him for a bit, in a low ranking position. But I did talk to several higher ups in the organization. Everything from just bsing at work to sitting down for lunch or having a drink or two in a bar. These included one on one to groups. And when I say higher ups, I mean at the top or near the top of the business. The people who sat down in meetings with him in the planning/developmental stages to the actual operation of the business and heck even one of his top personal security guards when he was in town. I wouldn't say any of them "wanted" to work for him, they were there for the most part because it was a stepping stone. It was a promotion over where they were at their previous employment or the belief they could advance quicker or that it would help their resume.

For people who actually want to work for the candidates, look at their grass root volunteer support. CO for example, Cruz had massive volunteer grass root support handing out flyers, going door to door, working phones. Trump not so much. Trump knows how to pay people to get them to work for him, Cruz IMO knows more on how to get people to want to work for him.

I will vote for Trump, here are a few reasons:

1. He's an entrepreneur.
2. He's anti-establishment.
3. He's anti-illegal immigration
4. He's anti-aggrievment.
5. He's not a Bible-thumping Republican
6. He's the only Republican against our disastrous trade deals.

1) I'll give you that, but just how successful? With the money he inherited, if he would of just stuck it in the market he would be at where he is now. And that doesn't count the amount of money he has cost investors with his numerous bankruptcies. Hell his first casino had to be bailed out by his father in the form of "loans" to get the balance sheet to where it needed so he could get more backing/investors/loans to keep from going under. The reason loans is in quotes, is because of how they done. If his father would have loaned him the money, it would have shown as a loan. What happened is that his father and body guards walked into the casino with a couple of briefcases full of cash, exchanged them for chips and left. After Trump secured the financing he did the opposite, walk in with chips and out with cash.

2) How do you figure? He is IMO very pro establishment, he just wants the establishment to work for him.

3) Now. But not when it benefits him. See the "Polish Brigade" among others.
We Googled 'Trump Polish workers.' Here's what we found | PolitiFact
https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...785116-20ec-11e5-84d5-eb37ee8eaa61_story.html

4) Could you explain this a bit more? I'm not quite sure what you mean. Although if it is what I think it is. You must be ****ing kidding.

5) I might give you the Repub part. But bible thumping? He can and does thump with the best if he thinks it will help him. Take for instance his speech at Liberty U. for example. Here are just a couple of quotes. "Christianity, it's under siege," "Two Corinthians, 3:17, that's the whole ballgame," "Where the spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty,".

6)Really? Cruz has spoken against them several times. That and the fact that Trump has taken advantage of those deals, repeatedly.

 

[Mark 1911]

I don't necessarily "like" the person who Trump is. But I think he would be an infinitely better choice than 4 more years with the Dems at the helm, and especially if that Dem turns out to be Hillary.

I think it is important to defeat the Dems so this nation can move forward again. I think our Congress will be a lot more functional without all the radical policies attempted to be forced down our throats at every turn and in every session of Congress. I can think of a lot of better choices than Trump, but I can't think of any worse than Hillary or Bernie.

 

[T.Lex]

If we knew how to defeat her she'd be under indictment for several of her actions. No one in Washington has the balls to go after her, no one with the power anyway.

Ah - I meant defeat in the political process. Her usual suspects will match up against "our" usual suspects and fight the same gridlocked fights we've had for 8 years. Well, truth be told, more like the same fights for a generation.

To me, that is less risky (although not necessarily preferable) to another narcissistic, self-indulgent amateur.

But, in fairness to your opinion, it is a close call.

 

[JettaKnight]

Why do I feel like the nerdy kid who can't get picked for kickball and has to eat lunch alone?


KAISICH

 

[T.Lex]

Why do I feel like the nerdy kid who can't get picked for kickball and has to eat lunch alone?


KAISICH

I call BS.

I'm thinking that if you really supported him that much, you'd get his name right.

The nerdy, picked last, lunch alone parts I can totally see.

 

[jamil]

And I have trouble understanding the other way around.

It's come down to this: I am a one issue voter at this point. Hillary will chose an anti-gun SCOTUS nominee. I do know what I'm getting with Hillary. I'm getting the most openly anti-gun person left in the race.

I don't know what I'm getting with Trump. Maybe he'll try to appoint his sister for SCOTUS. Maybe his pro-gun rhetoric is a sham and he'll actually sign any gun legislation that would cross his desk. I'm not discounting that from a snake oil salesman. But at least with Trump there is some doubt. There is no doubt about Hillary.

 

[jamil]

<<< I'll be voting for Trump because of my avatar.

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to seedubs1 again."

 

[T.Lex]

It's come down to this: I am a one issue voter at this point. Hillary will chose an anti-gun SCOTUS nominee. I do know what I'm getting with Hillary. I'm getting the most openly anti-gun person left in the race.

I don't know what I'm getting with Trump. Maybe he'll try to appoint his sister for SCOTUS. Maybe his pro-gun rhetoric is a sham and he'll actually sign any gun legislation that would cross his desk. I'm not discounting that from a snake oil salesman. But at least with Trump there is some doubt. There is no doubt about Hillary.

A reasonable position.

But, since this is INGO, I must say that your position reeks of underinformed, nearsighted bigotry. Or something like that.

 

[seedubs1]

It's the truth. And all my wife can see is "how can my husband vote for that awful person?" I don't want either of them.....I just despise one's policies less than the other.

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to seedubs1 again."

 

[JTScribe]

"I'll give you that, but just how successful? With the money he inherited, if he would of just stuck it in the market he would be at where he is now."

This argument drives me batty. How many people do Trump's companies employ? How many contractors have made money building his buildings?

No, screw that guy for putting his money to work instead of sticking it in a mutual fund, amirite?