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  • Super Bee

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    <<< I'll be voting for Trump because of my avatar.


    I think I may do the same. . .

    Ace Frehley for President.
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    Timjoebillybob

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    "I'll give you that, but just how successful? With the money he inherited, if he would of just stuck it in the market he would be at where he is now."

    This argument drives me batty. How many people do Trump's companies employ? How many contractors have made money building his buildings?

    No, screw that guy for putting his money to work instead of sticking it in a mutual fund, amirite?

    Nope. I'm just pointing out when people say he is an entrepreneur, that while he may be one. He is far from the best. And you also didn't mention the part about how many other people who put their money to work and create jobs/etc that have lost their money due to him. How much has he invested of his money, compared to how much has he cost others who could have put their money to better use?
     

    LP1

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    "I'll give you that, but just how successful? With the money he inherited, if he would of just stuck it in the market he would be at where he is now."

    This argument drives me batty. How many people do Trump's companies employ? How many contractors have made money building his buildings?

    No, screw that guy for putting his money to work instead of sticking it in a mutual fund, amirite?

    What do you think happens to money that goes into a mutual fund?
     

    HoughMade

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    Other Famous Entrepreneurs:

    Michael Bloomberg
    George Soros
    Oprah Winfrey
    Sean Combs
    Ted Turner
    Warren Buffet
    George Lucas

    Should we go on?
     

    MisterChester

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    1) I'll give you that, but just how successful? With the money he inherited, if he would of just stuck it in the market he would be at where he is now. And that doesn't count the amount of money he has cost investors with his numerous bankruptcies. Hell his first casino had to be bailed out by his father in the form of "loans" to get the balance sheet to where it needed so he could get more backing/investors/loans to keep from going under. The reason loans is in quotes, is because of how they done. If his father would have loaned him the money, it would have shown as a loan. What happened is that his father and body guards walked into the casino with a couple of briefcases full of cash, exchanged them for chips and left. After Trump secured the financing he did the opposite, walk in with chips and out with cash.

    2) How do you figure? He is IMO very pro establishment, he just wants the establishment to work for him.

    3) Now. But not when it benefits him. See the "Polish Brigade" among others.
    We Googled 'Trump Polish workers.' Here's what we found | PolitiFact
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...785116-20ec-11e5-84d5-eb37ee8eaa61_story.html

    4) Could you explain this a bit more? I'm not quite sure what you mean. Although if it is what I think it is. You must be ****ing kidding.

    5) I might give you the Repub part. :D But bible thumping? He can and does thump with the best if he thinks it will help him. Take for instance his speech at Liberty U. for example. Here are just a couple of quotes. "Christianity, it's under siege," "Two Corinthians, 3:17, that's the whole ballgame," "Where the spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty,".

    6)Really? Cruz has spoken against them several times. That and the fact that Trump has taken advantage of those deals, repeatedly.

    1. He may not be the most successful businessperson ever, but he has been pretty darn successful. IMO this country has lost its drive to praise entrepreneurs. It's a fact that he had many unsuccessful business ventures (Trump steaks? LOL). But also you must keep in mind for every one that is successful there were 10 ventures that were not. He took a million dollar loan from his dad (which he did have to pay back) and made billions from that. Ask any one who's gone into business for themselves, it is really hard to start something and keep it going.

    2. If he's so establishment then why is the GOPe doing everything they can to nominate someone who isn't him? It's not a bad idea to want to get the establishment to work with you, you might change a few minds. He's beholden to nobody. Here is a list of special interest groups that have donated to his campaign:


    3. Take a moment to research Cruz H1B visas.

    [video=youtube;LQSD0MPKka8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQSD0MPKka8[/video]

    No thanks.

    4. He's not taking the crap from the left. The left is all about aggrievement and SJWing.

    5. You can be a Christian Republican and not be a Bible thumper, like Trump. It is my view that politicians should not let their religious beliefs interfere with their job, which Cruz has pointed out he will let it happen. Also Trump doesn't have pastors speak at his rallies that have called for the death of gays, like Cruz has.

    6. He does now, but not before.

    Ted Cruz Is a Disingenuous Flipper on Free Trade

    I hate citing Huffington Post (should just be renamed Chicks In A Bad Mood) but there's a point to be made. Cruz is the Republican Hillary on the subject of trade.
     

    Bennettjh

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    I don't necessarily "like" the person who Trump is. But I think he would be an infinitely better choice than 4 more years with the Dems at the helm, and especially if that Dem turns out to be Hillary.

    I think it is important to defeat the Dems so this nation can move forward again. I think our Congress will be a lot more functional without all the radical policies attempted to be forced down our throats at every turn and in every session of Congress. I can think of a lot of better choices than Trump, but I can't think of any worse than Hillary or Bernie.
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    Timjoebillybob

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    1. He may not be the most successful businessperson ever, but he has been pretty darn successful. IMO this country has lost its drive to praise entrepreneurs. It's a fact that he had many unsuccessful business ventures (Trump steaks? LOL). But also you must keep in mind for every one that is successful there were 10 ventures that were not. He took a million dollar loan from his dad (which he did have to pay back) and made billions from that. Ask any one who's gone into business for themselves, it is really hard to start something and keep it going.

    2. If he's so establishment then why is the GOPe doing everything they can to nominate someone who isn't him? It's not a bad idea to want to get the establishment to work with you, you might change a few minds. He's beholden to nobody. Here is a list of special interest groups that have donated to his campaign:


    3. Take a moment to research Cruz H1B visas.

    [video=youtube;LQSD0MPKka8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQSD0MPKka8[/video]

    No thanks.

    4. He's not taking the crap from the left. The left is all about aggrievement and SJWing.

    5. You can be a Christian Republican and not be a Bible thumper, like Trump. It is my view that politicians should not let their religious beliefs interfere with their job, which Cruz has pointed out he will let it happen. Also Trump doesn't have pastors speak at his rallies that have called for the death of gays, like Cruz has.

    6. He does now, but not before.

    Ted Cruz Is a Disingenuous Flipper on Free Trade

    I hate citing Huffington Post (should just be renamed Chicks In A Bad Mood) but there's a point to be made. Cruz is the Republican Hillary on the subject of trade.

    1) Yes he took a 1 million dollar loan to start his own business. He also took over his father's business and received an estimated 40 million when it was liquidated. Not including what he received as an inheritance. Also the "loan" I mentioned above is not that 1 million. In 1982 after running his father's firm, his wealth was estimated at $200 million. That also doesn't include the connections he had through his father, or his father's credit worthiness which helped him when starting. So yeah that whole he built his empire from just a 1 million dollar loan is BS.

    He is good at real estate, but that is about it. You mentioned his steaks, there is also his airline, his attempt at pro football, casinos(4 bankruptcies just on those right?), etc. All of which went belly up.
    Did Donald Trump inherit $100 million? | PolitiFact Florida

    2) Again he is pro establishment when it's working for him. The establishment doesn't want him running it.

    3)Ah I thought you mentioned illegal immigration. You want to talk about H1B visas? How many different stances has Trump taken on that in the past couple of months? Let's see he was against them, then for them, then wanted them cut, then increased... Or what about his actual use of them? Shall we start with the Mar a Lago? Since 2010 about 300 US residents have applied for waitress/waiter/etc staff there. 17 have been hired. How many on guest worker visas from other countries? Hundreds. How about models, another highly skilled technical job, well we could start with his current wife. Or how about this lady.Model Sues Donald Trump Modeling Agency - Immigration Laws | Teen Vogue
    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/26/u...ign-work-force-for-his-florida-club.html?_r=0

    Oh yes he is all for American workers.

    4)Okay that's what I sorta thought you were talking about. Sure he's against it, when he thinks it will get him votes. Or when he's not whining himself over how unfair he's being treated. Or how unfair it is that he has to get 1263 votes. Or whining "He started it". Or...

    5)As I said he thumps with the best when he thinks it will help him. When did Cruz have a pastor at his rally that called for the death of gays. Cite please. Oh pretty please.

    6)He has never been in favor of the TPP, he has stated he had a wait and see approach to see what it would contain. Since that info has become available he has stated he is against it. Now the TPA which is not the same, they are related but not the same. The TPA is not a trade agreement, it relates to them but is not one. There have been TPA's on and off for going on what 40 years or so? Yes Cruz did change his position on the TPA, he claims it was after new details came out. But who knows.
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...uz-i-always-opposed-tpp-trans-pacific-partne/
     

    level.eleven

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    I would think it should be obvious to anyone that actually cares about the direction this country is heading in but just in case that's too obtuse , here's a video .


    https://youtu.be/FDiZ5HW2wqU

    If you don't care about what happened in Commierado then skip to 16:10 , the last three minutes pretty much sums up why we all should vote for Trump .

    Low intellect. That is the only reason one would vote for Trump.

    Simple men.
     

    Timjoebillybob

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    Yea, because the Harvard bunch has done this country sooo much good.:rolleyes:

    While not Harvard, you do know that Trump is part of the Ivy league bunch right, Wharton to be specific?

    Can't get him either. Are we sure the GOPe didn't model their delegate rules on our rep algorithm?
    I can and did.

    Pretty sure. Their rules aren't nearly complex enough for that.
     

    AA&E

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    Which Republican candidate best fits this description?


    Ted Cruz IMO. I remember with absolute clarity his posturing and grand standing during threats of government shut downs and failure to extend the credit limit (and pay our interest) resulting in the downgrading of the US credit rating. This man used national politics as a tool to further his brand. I would have voted for ANYONE from the previous list of former candidates that have dropped out before considering this scumbag prick.
     

    AA&E

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    Huh? Montana hasn't had their primary yet. It's in June.
    Montana Primary Results 2016 - The New York Times

    It is quite possible that it did happen in another state, and if so it's quite easily explained. I'll use LA for an example, there are two different sets of delegates from LA going to the national convention. District and state, Trump won the state and received a higher number of delegates at the state level, Cruz won a higher number of delegates at the district level. They ended up with the same number of delegates going to the national convention even though Trump won the "state" with a % of the votes. The Dems also have a higher number of unbound or super delegates who can vote for whoever they want at the first vote of the convention, while they are unbound they can express a preference for a candidate and those that do get counted as being for that candidate.



    You know I wonder that myself. Natural born citizen, is a citizen at birth, as in not a naturalized citizen. What definition do you use, and why?



    And Trump isn't part of the broken system with the money he has poured into campaigns and lobbying efforts to get the legislation that will help him?



    I have a name in mind. :D

    I apologize, I misspoke, it was Wyoming.
     
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