Why bother with the GOP if this is all it has to offer?

[BehindBlueI's]

I guess you could argue being mentally unstable and believing what is demonstrably untrue would substantially limit 'one or more major life activities'

Not sure about your definition of 'competency' where it concerns a manifestly unstable individual, but you get to do you

Maybe you imagine they would be something like John Malkovich's character in Red, where a paranoid psychotic also manages to be a useful and reliable team player. Not like that's just Hollywood story telling or anything. Personally, I think you're more likely to get 'Audrey' Hale than private Vasquez

I'm not imagining anything. I responded to your question. If they are competent, I don't care. If they aren't competent, I do care. I doubt Jenner is 'unstable' in a way that makes him unsuitable for law enforcement. I don't have to like them, approve of their choices, etc. I just have to work with them and do what's best for the organization. I don't like people who cheat on their spouses, it shows a lack of integrity, but does it impact integrity on the job? That's what I need to know.

And you've got to quit with the pop culture references if you're attempting to successfully communicate with me. I have some idea of who John Malkovich is but couldn't pick him out of a lineup and have never heard of Red.

 

[JettaKnight]

Great thread. Great opinions. Great input. Great posts. I thank you all. I think I liked three or four debated posts in a row because I believed that valid points were made.

Beliefs are one thing, how those beliefs are administered are another. That ultimately brings people in or drives people away.

In our third century of independence, four decades after the Cold War and after eight decades of American hegemony worldwide, the populace has been lulled into complacency. They've never tasted anything but decadence and luxury items so there is no sense of urgency for the austerity of preserving something.

This is why I love trips to Eastern Europe - those people still remember living under Communism. There's a love of freedom there that we've lost. There's a lot people here who claim to love freedom, yet also openly promote silencing their political opponents.

This forum is the far right side of the bell curve, whether one is conservative, liberty-minded, Constitutional, etc. The far right hand side of the bell curve never needs any other part of the curve UNTIL it's time to get people in their boat so that majorities can be earned, work can be done, legislation can be passed or denied and movement one way or the other takes place or does not.

We're coming into an election year. People like Trump's policies, but not Trump. People thought DeSantis was Trump without the Trump baggage, but he has not moved the needle. Nikki Haley appears to be the slower walk towards what we don't like.

It's not that I just don't like Trump - I don't his authoritarian stance. It's not his bombastic words that I don't like, it's his dictatorial words I don't like.

When you have a candidate who's pushed to throw away to constitution to remove his opponent and openly called for locking up people who have differing political view... that's more that just, "he's a meanie".

Maybe, Vivek's style needs to be considered. People like his message, but aren't sure because he has no track record. He believes in the morality necessary to execute a republic, he sympathizes with our Judeo-Christian traditions and foundation but is not evangelical or even Christian. He talks to anyone and everyone without talking at them, unless it's a snarky debate moderator or Ronna McDaniel. He speaks to the proper 21st Century platforms where he can get the most reach. He can appeal to the young, empathize with the apathetic, but speak to the concerned. I admit, I hope he really believes what he says and is not just a flash in the pan.

Vivek will say whatever to get elected.

But then there's that damned purity test that has popped up in this thread and so many others.

You must be new to INGO.

Over the last five years, INGO has gotten real good at silencing anything they don't like.

 

[Route 45]

There's a lot people here who claim to love freedom, yet also openly promote silencing their political opponents.

You mean like kicking them off social media platforms and issuing gag orders?

When you have a candidate who's pushed to throw away to constitution to remove his opponent and openly called for locking up people who have differing political view... that's more that just, "he's a meanie".

Yeah, I don't like democrats either.

Vivek will say whatever to get elected.

News flash: They all will.

Over the last five years, INGO has gotten real good at silencing anything they don't like.

Example? Remember, slinking off into the night because you got ratioed is not the same as being silenced.

 

[JettaKnight]

Example? Remember, slinking off into the night because you got ratioed is not the same as being silenced.

Where's TLex?

 

[Tombs]

It's not that I just don't like Trump - I don't his authoritarian stance. It's not his bombastic words that I don't like, it's his dictatorial words I don't like.

You mean like leaving covid policy to the state's to make their own choices on?

 

[Ingomike]

Where's TLex?

His user name is gone…

 

[BugI02]

I'm not imagining anything. I responded to your question. If they are competent, I don't care. If they aren't competent, I do care. I doubt Jenner is 'unstable' in a way that makes him unsuitable for law enforcement. I don't have to like them, approve of their choices, etc. I just have to work with them and do what's best for the organization. I don't like people who cheat on their spouses, it shows a lack of integrity, but does it impact integrity on the job? That's what I need to know.

And you've got to quit with the pop culture references if you're attempting to successfully communicate with me. I have some idea of who John Malkovich is but couldn't pick him out of a lineup and have never heard of Red.

I'm not on your lawn, gramps

 

[JettaKnight]

You mean like kicking them off social media platforms and issuing gag orders?

You are far too smart to be making the "They silencing us!" claim. One need only look at all posting here from X to dispute that quickly. And why would Elon kill his cash cow? Conservative rage porn makes him tons of money.

It one thing went tech moguls say something, it's totally different when a Presidential candidate says, "root out the communists, Marxists, fascists and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country that lie and steal and cheat on elections."

What are you going to do when you root them out? Ship them in boxcars to those old Walmart Supercenters?

Can you only imagine the INGO ****storm if Biden said, "root out the Christian, Nazi, fascists and the radical right thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country that lie and steal and cheat on elections"?


This dehumanizing of our opponents will destroy us all.

 

[jamil]

Yes, you are correct... I blame the third bourbon when typing that.

It’s alright. Humoring delusions is the new way of treating mental illness.

 

[jamil]

This is why I love trips to Eastern Europe - those people still remember living under Communism. There's a love of freedom there that we've lost. There's a lot people here who claim to love freedom, yet also openly promote silencing their political opponents.




It's not that I just don't like Trump - I don't his authoritarian stance. It's not his bombastic words that I don't like, it's his dictatorial words I don't like.

When you have a candidate who's pushed to throw away to constitution to remove his opponent and openly called for locking up people who have differing political view... that's more that just, "he's a meanie".


Vivek will say whatever to get elected.


You must be new to INGO.

Over the last five years, INGO has gotten real good at silencing anything they don't like.

What do you think of Nikky Haley then?

 

[JettaKnight]

It’s alright. Humoring delusions is the new way of treating mental illness.

I'll remember that when dealing with Buckeyes.

 

[JettaKnight]

What do you think of Nikky Haley then?

Honestly no one really thrills me, but there's worse than her.

 

[Cynical]

“Outside of a few elected Republicans, the majority of the GOP is a fake opposition party. They never fight on issues that matter when they matter and routinely cave on the major political fights of our time.”

The GOP Is A Fake Opposition Party With No Vision

There's only one legitimate political force playing to win in Washington, D.C., and it's not the Republican Party.

thefederalist.com

Couldn’t agree more. Well said!!

 

[Tombs]

This dehumanizing of our opponents will destroy us all.

You seem to forget we're practically already in a war.

Democrats are openly calling for forcibly re-educating anyone who opposes them. Why should I care about whether they get their feelings hurt? https://www.forbes.com/sites/markjo...ists-who-still-support-trump/?sh=4754b18173b8

Am I supposed to just turn and face the wall, and die knowing "they don't really mean it?" Wishing things were more civil does not make them more civil.

 

[jamil]

Honestly no one really thrills me, but there's worse than her.

The only GOP candidate in the race more authoritarian than Haley is Christie. We’ve had 4 years of Trump. He wasn’t the least authoritarian president we’ve had. He wasn’t the most either.

Nikky Haley should not be allowed anywhere near any government power.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

I'm not on your lawn, gramps

If you find yourself there, help yourself to some leaves. Stuff your pockets, knock yourself out!

 

[JettaKnight]

You seem to forget we're practically already in a war.

Democrats are openly calling for forcibly re-educating anyone who opposes them. Why should I care about whether they get their feelings hurt? https://www.forbes.com/sites/markjo...ists-who-still-support-trump/?sh=4754b18173b8

Am I supposed to just turn and face the wall, and die knowing "they don't really mean it?" Wishing things were more civil does not make them more civil.

Call me Reaganite, but I refuse to believe that lowering ourselves to their (perceived) level is good for America.

 

[JettaKnight]

The only GOO candidate in the race more authoritarian than Haley is Christie. We’ve had 4 years of Trump. He wasn’t the least authoritarian president we’ve had. He wasn’t the most either.

Nikky Haley should not be allowed anywhere near any government power.

Who do you like?

 

[Tombs]

Call me Reaganite, but I refuse to believe that lowering ourselves to their (perceived) level is good for America.

Perceived?

So what would you say if Trump was calling for forcibly re-educating democrats? Just that they're perceiving something that isn't so?

 

[Route 45]

It one thing went tech moguls say something, it's totally different when a Presidential candidate says, "root out the communists, Marxists, fascists and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country that lie and steal and cheat on elections."

I'm already voting for him, you don't have to sell it.

What are you going to do when you root them out? Ship them in boxcars to those old Walmart Supercenters?

Why, did we run out of empty KMarts?

Can you only imagine the INGO ****storm if Biden said, "root out the Christian, Nazi, fascists and the radical right thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country that lie and steal and cheat on elections"?

I've already heard that general sentiment from leftist scum. It doesn't need to come from the old bastard's mouth, we all know what team he is on.

This dehumanizing of our opponents will destroy us all.

I don't assign the label of "human" to scum that think the sexual mutilation and drugging of children is normal, or that think that they have the right to disarm me and prevent me from defending myself and my loved ones. Or that Hamas is the good guy. There is no compromise with vermin like that. There is no reasonable debate to be had with these lunatics.

If there is destruction to be had, let it come before I'm too old to do anything but shake my fist at the TV.