Why Are So Many Still Against Hemp / Marijuana ?

[D-Ric902]

No. Obviously we should harshly, publicly, ridicule them just before we pour hot tar over their heads, plunge a knife into their chests, and set them on fire. Because those are the ONLY two possibilities.

Again, you prove your sig line correct

 

[steveh_131]

No. Obviously we should harshly, publicly, ridicule them just before we pour hot tar over their heads, plunge a knife into their chests, and set them on fire. Because those are the ONLY two possibilities.

It seems like arguing with them on the internet is the next step below patting them on the back. A reasonable middle ground before the hot tar.

 

[Ericpwp]

 

[steveh_131]

Again, you prove your sig line correct

 

[jblomenberg16]

I'm very late to the thread, but in college I had two friends that went from being 4.0 students at a very tough private engineering school in Terre Haute, to barely graduating and struggling to find jobs. They went from caring about their grades, to caring about nothing by the next high. The stopped going to class, they stopped studying, and only by luck and the persistence of their friends to help them get classes complete did they make it through school. They stole from friends to get money to buy pot. They bummed food from us because they had spent all their money on pot. They bummed rides to class because they couldn't put gas in their car because they spent all their money on pot.

The fact that they had such low GPA's upon graduation really made it hard for them to find a job in the field they studied, and probably cost them at least 50% in terms of starting salary, and probably cost them a huge amount of money throughout their careers as that starting salary typically becomes the base to build on. I have no idea what happened to them...who knows...maybe they did make a change and are doing quite well. Maybe they didn't, but were able to find another profession to help earn a living. I hope things did work out for them...they were great guys that seemed to make some not so great decisions.

Yeah, I know other things, like alcohol, girls, etc can cause similar behavior. I'm not saying pot does it to everyone, but it did it to these guys. I'll never forget watching my buddy get high after a final, and ceremonially burn a $200 textbook and all his notes from the class, only to find out a few days later that he failed the final and the class, and would have to retake it. His exact words were "I done f'd up, didn't I."


Again, that was enough for ME to realize that any drug can really affect the way a person behaves and those decisions can really cause a spiral down the tube. So, legal or not legal, I won't be doing it, and really don't care what other people do with it. I think legalizing it just opens the door for too much other fallout that is worse than whatever the claimed negatives are today for it being illegal.

 

[steveh_131]

I'm very late to the thread, but in college I had two friends that went from being 4.0 students at a very tough private engineering school in Terre Haute, to barely graduating and struggling to find jobs. They went from caring about their grades, to caring about nothing by the next high. The stopped going to class, they stopped studying, and only by luck and the persistence of their friends to help them get classes complete did they make it through school. They stole from friends to get money to buy pot. They bummed food from us because they had spent all their money on pot. They bummed rides to class because they couldn't put gas in their car because they spent all their money on pot.

The fact that they had such low GPA's upon graduation really made it hard for them to find a job in the field they studied, and probably cost them at least 50% in terms of starting salary, and probably cost them a huge amount of money throughout their careers as that starting salary typically becomes the base to build on. I have no idea what happened to them...who knows...maybe they did make a change and are doing quite well. Maybe they didn't, but were able to find another profession to help earn a living. I hope things did work out for them...they were great guys that seemed to make some not so great decisions.

Yeah, I know other things, like alcohol, girls, etc can cause similar behavior. I'm not saying pot does it to everyone, but it did it to these guys. I'll never forget watching my buddy get high after a final, and ceremonially burn a $200 textbook and all his notes from the class, only to find out a few days later that he failed the final and the class, and would have to retake it. His exact words were "I done f'd up, didn't I."


Again, that was enough for ME to realize that any drug can really affect the way a person behaves and those decisions can really cause a spiral down the tube. So, legal or not legal, I won't be doing it, and really don't care what other people do with it. I think legalizing it just opens the door for too much other fallout that is worse than whatever the claimed negatives are today for it being illegal.

I watched many guys flunk out of college over video games.

Some flunk out over alcohol and partying.

This indicates a lack of character and motivation, not a lack of laws.

 

[seedubs1]

There aught to be a law against that

I watched many guys flunk out of college over video games.

Some flunk out over alcohol and partying.

This indicates a lack of character and motivation, not a lack of laws.

 

[seedubs1]

REALLY???

Drug War Clock | DrugSense
Drug War Statistics | Marijuana Statistics | Mexico Drug War Deaths | Drug Policy Alliance

In 2013, over 600,000 people were charged with petty possession.
We spent over $50 BILLION a year on this failed "war."


So a few idiots that don't have any self control justify spending TRILLIONS and imprisoning countless thousands (which costs MORE money AND ruins peoples lives)?

Spend the money on treatment for those who want it instead. Put the money to a GOOD use instead of the "war on drugs." All the current status quot has done is create an illicit and violent drug enterprise, cost tax payers too much money, and ruined lives.

I think legalizing it just opens the door for too much other fallout that is worse than whatever the claimed negatives are today for it being illegal.

 

[D-Ric902]

 

[MisterChester]

I watched many guys flunk out of college over video games.

Some flunk out over alcohol and partying.

This indicates a lack of character and motivation, not a lack of laws.

Precisely. +1

 

[Ericpwp]

So, we can agree addiction is a problem.

 

[steveh_131]

So, we can agree addiction is a problem.

Absolutely.

 

[rambone]

No. Obviously we should harshly, publicly, ridicule them just before we pour hot tar over their heads, plunge a knife into their chests, and set them on fire. Because those are the ONLY two possibilities.

Harsh ridicule? Acknowledging that a person follows a philosophy of statism is about as gentle as it can be put, and accurate by your own definition. Also, there is no violence being suggested from me; violence is the language of the prohibitionists. If you don't do what they think is best for your lungs, they will send masked men with guns to break down your door in the middle of the night and throw you in a cage. Now THAT is harsh. But they won't stop there, they'll take children away, take your guns away, take your ability to vote and change the system away too. You're upset at my truthful analysis, but what of the people who are actually harsh and violent?

 

[D-Ric902]

If you don't do what they think is best for your lungs,

they will send masked men with guns to break down your door in the middle of the night and throw you in a cage. Now THAT is harsh. But they won't stop there,

they'll take children away,

take your guns away,

take your ability to vote and change the system

wow,
just wow

 

[rambone]

wow,
just wow

This is exactly what happens. And people justify such violence with arguments about the health risks of inhaling smoke. Save the harsh name-calling for the people who actually use such dangerous rationale.

 

[ModernGunner]

Spend the money on treatment for those who want it instead. Put the money to a GOOD use instead of the "war on drugs."

Absolutely not. That is simply 'rewarding' some dipstick for their bad personal choices.

If some person wants treatment for their drug (or other) problem, the costs of that treatment should be burdened by that person or those in their circle (family, friends, etc.) that want to help.

 

[armedindy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbNM0ViRaE0

 

[steveh_131]

Absolutely not. That is simply 'rewarding' some dipstick for their bad personal choices.

If some person wants treatment for their drug (or other) problem, the costs of that treatment should be burdened by that person or those in their circle (family, friends, etc.) that want to help.

I agree, but if people insist on government intervention to solve this problem, that would be a more effective solution than locking everybody up.

 

[D-Ric902]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbNM0ViRaE0

Now that's some pot smoking I can get behind

 

[ArcadiaGP]

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