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  • larcat

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    And of course in their own self-definitions they can't possibly be racists themselves, or maybe more accurately, that their racism can't be oppressive, so it's okay, and even justified against the oppressors.
    Under CRT, and wokeism more broadly, it's impossible to be racist against white people. Not "oh that doesn't happen", but literally impossible because of structural etc.
     

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    And of course in their own self-definitions they can't possibly be racists themselves, or maybe more accurately, that their racism can't be oppressive, so it's okay, and even justified against the oppressors.
    Oppress the oppressors. Fight fascists with fascism. Racism must be used to eradicate racism.

    The ends justify the means.
     

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    Under CRT, and wokeism more broadly, it's impossible to be racist against white people. Not "oh that doesn't happen", but literally impossible because of structural etc.
    Some of the Wokeologists have said that Black people can hate white people, can be prejudiced against white people, and have even gone so far as to call that racist. But it's justified because their hatred is natural, against oppressors. Their racism can't be oppressive because of those power structures. So it's individual racism and not systemic racism. Systemic racism can only be applied to white people because it's their system and designed to oppress minorities.
     

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    Oppress the oppressors. Fight fascists with fascism. Racism must be used to eradicate racism.

    The ends justify the means.
    Yes. If I were to sum up the goal of CRT, in a simplification of their own words, it's to flip the hierarchy. That's a bit reductive, but it's true enough.
     

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    Yes. If I were to sum up the goal of CRT, in a simplification of their own words, it's to flip the hierarchy. That's a bit reductive, but it's true enough.
    Pretty much. It's not just equality of peaceful co-existence that they are seeking. Their end goal is dominance. They want all white people to be submissive.
     
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    IndyDave1776

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    Going through the same thing with my father right now.
    The parallels with Biden's freakish behavior is so blindingly obvious that I can't help but laugh at what a mess we're in.

    Watching a loved one, especially your father go down that way is honestly worse than death.
    At an operating level, I dealt with the difficulties by reminding myself that I was a handful for her when I was young.
     
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    One can only surmise that the current occupant in the oval office is in favor of CRT based training programs. Someone needs to press his circle jerk press secretary on the issue of CRT and what the official WH take on it is. Get the a-holes on record and make them defend it and if she tries to blow it off with this "circle back" bull **** then we know what the answer is.
    No need to surmise. The Biden Administration is openly pushing for CRT in public schools.

     
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    IndyDave1776

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    CRT in action right here, as brought to us by the Epoch Times.

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    How in the universe can standardized tests be racist unless one is arguing from the premise that racial minorities are inherently stupid?
     

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    CRT in action right here, as brought to us by the Epoch Times.

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    How in the universe can standardized tests be racist unless one is arguing from the premise that racial minorities are inherently stupid?
    The argument I most commonly hear is that white students have the money, time and parental support to get tutoring and or spend time learning how to prep for the test. Students of color either don't have the time or money to practice. At least that's the excuse given.

    On average, students of lower income households perform lower than those with more money, which might hurt a student with exceptional grades and GPA, but a lower SAT score. They lose access to Ivy League schools just based on a low test result.

    I do think there is room to talk about how grades and test scores are weighted, to give the best picture of a student's overall capability, but many of the claims are based on racial stereotypes, like black and brown students can't possibly prepare for SAT's the way white kids do.

     

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    The argument I most commonly hear is that white students have the money, time and parental support to get tutoring and or spend time learning how to prep for the test. Students of color either don't have the time or money to practice. At least that's the excuse given.

    On average, students of lower income households perform lower than those with more money, which might hurt a student with exceptional grades and GPA, but a lower SAT score. They lose access to Ivy League schools just based on a low test result.

    I do think there is room to talk about how grades and test scores are weighted, to give the best picture of a student's overall capability, but many of the claims are based on racial stereotypes, like black and brown students can't possibly prepare for SAT's the way white kids do.


    I would say that we are pretty close in general here. I dont believe that standardized tests should be the end all and be all of admissions decisions, nor do I believe they should be ignored.

    I can attest from personal experience that you can come from a home in which not only are you not being supported but are being constantly presented with extraneous problems that are academically harmful and still manage a presentable SAT score.

    My guess is that the real goal is to limit higher education (eroding quality notwithstanding) to politically selected recipients.
     

    jwamplerusa

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    I was so much happier in my life when I was studying engineering and CRT meant "Cathode Ray Tube" as commonly used in Oscilloscopes and television sets of the time. The biggest worry was being electrocuted if you contacted the anode voltage supply.
    Yay! High voltage power supplies, and probes way longer than my Johnson...
     
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