Where did you OC today?

[GuyRelford]

Eagle Creek Pistol Range, no one seemed to notice.

I sincerely hope that you are joking. If you came to ECPR for a free afternoon of range time, sat through our safety briefing and still openly defied our safety rules, you will not be allowed to return. Is that clear?

Guy

 

[Concerned Citizen]

PM sent about that.....

Even though I stated I OC'd there, I didn't. I knew before arriving that no loaded weapons were allowed on the property, except on the firing line. I was makking a funny . I wasn't carrying any loaded weapons, I was following the range rules! Sorry for the misunderstanding (or innapropriate joke) guys

But, thanks for the tips on my technique, it was very helpful!

Edit: the attempt at humor was I was trying to say I was OC'ing someplace where everyone would have weapons, which is not really all that impressive, when everyone else here is stating where they OC'd where they'd obviously be the only one with a weapon. (I should have used purple! ! )

 

[jeremy]

I sincerely hope that you are joking. If you came to ECPR for a free afternoon of range time, sat through our safety briefing and still openly defied our safety rules, you will not be allowed to return. Is that clear?

Guy

LOL...

Just another reason I am glad I have my own range...

 

[mk2ja]

I sincerely hope that you are joking. If you came to ECPR for a free afternoon of range time, sat through our safety briefing and still openly defied our safety rules, you will not be allowed to return. Is that clear?

Guy

There was probably a more appropriate way to handle this concern (which I do recognize is important to ECPR), such as this:

PM sent about that.....

The public reprimand without first approaching the individual directly about it shouldn't be a standard procedure.

 

[GuyRelford]

There was probably a more appropriate way to handle this concern (which I do recognize is important to ECPR), such as this:



The public reprimand without first approaching the individual directly about it shouldn't be a standard procedure.

You are exactly right - and I stand corrected.

And my apologies to CC for not realizing his post was an attempt at humor. I perceived it as someone publicly thumbing his nose at our policies, so I reacted publicly. Still, I agree with you and I should have handled it differently.

Guy

 

[GuyRelford]

Even though I stated I OC'd there, I didn't. I knew before arriving that no loaded weapons were allowed on the property, except on the firing line. I was makking a funny . I wasn't carrying any loaded weapons, I was following the range rules! Sorry for the misunderstanding (or innapropriate joke) guys

But, thanks for the tips on my technique, it was very helpful!

Edit: the attempt at humor was I was trying to say I was OC'ing someplace where everyone would have weapons, which is not really all that impressive, when everyone else here is stating where they OC'd where they'd obviously be the only one with a weapon. (I should have used purple! ! )

No worries. Sorry for the over-reaction. You've got a free visit to ECPR on me if you want it. (But you have to sit through the safety orientation again).

Guy

 

[Kutnupe14]

I sincerely hope that you are joking. If you came to ECPR for a free afternoon of range time, sat through our safety briefing and still openly defied our safety rules, you will not be allowed to return. Is that clear?

Guy

Just out of curiosity are you a pro or anti-CC guy? No loaded weapons are allowed on the property except on the firing line? Does that make a difference, if one was out to solely shoot rifle, and had their "sidearm" holstered the entire time.

 

[Concerned Citizen]

No sweat Guy. and to Kutnupe14, I happen to know it's not his policy, it's the City's policy because of the insurance company. The city owns the range, TFT just manages it for them.

And no, your scenario would not be allowed.

 

[Kutnupe14]

No sweat Guy. and to Kutnupe14, I happen to know it's not his policy, it's the City's policy because of the insurance company. The city owns the range, TFT just manages it for them.

And no, your scenario would not be allowed.

Ah gotcha, that makes sense. In either case, I was going to say his property his rules.

 

[GuyRelford]

Just out of curiosity are you a pro or anti-CC guy? No loaded weapons are allowed on the property except on the firing line? Does that make a difference, if one was out to solely shoot rifle, and had their "sidearm" holstered the entire time.

I think you meant pro or anti-"OC."

If so, as a personal matter, I am very much a pro-OC guy. I mostly CC in public, but OC occasionally and strongly support the right to do so.

Guy

 

[GuyRelford]

No sweat Guy. and to Kutnupe14, I happen to know it's not his policy, it's the City's policy because of the insurance company. The city owns the range, TFT just manages it for them.

In honesty, I really can't put this off on the city. It is a TFT rule due to the fact that we're a public range open to everyone and we get a lot of totally inexperienced shooters. For that reason, we really don't want folks holstering and unholstering loaded weapons on the range.

 

[Concerned Citizen]

OH, you mean that guy with a mullet just comming from Don's Guns with his first 9mm, working on his sideways shooting technique

 

[Hoosierdood]

Back on topic - Went to Texas Roadhouse last night with the wife and kids. Monday night is $.99 kids meals. We can't eat crappy McDonalds for those prices.

 

[TTravis]

I've never OC but have CC for over 20 years. I saw someone at Camby Walmart OC the other day and got me to thinking. I joined this group along with opencarry.org and learned a lot about OC. I probably won't OC much myself. I don't have anything worth displaying and normally just carry a little .38 in my pocket. I guess the satisfaction I get from CC is that most of my friends and neighbours have no idea I am armed. My wife and kids take comport knowing I am armed and that I will protect them if necessary. I am glad to see OC is so alive and well. The main thing I get from all this is that I will no longer feel guilty if my firearm becomes partially exposed or prints. I have come a long way because when I first got my permit, I thought is was unlawful to have anything showing. Thanks for making me feel more comfortable OC people.

 

[rhino]

^ They liked our OC so much, they even gave us a complimentary extra order of pancakes.

You do realize it was me that they liked, don't you?

Reason #2618 to OC - free pancakes.

Well, yeah!

 

[rhino]

In honesty, I really can't put this off on the city. It is a TFT rule due to the fact that we're a public range open to everyone and we get a lot of totally inexperienced shooters. For that reason, we really don't want folks holstering and unholstering loaded weapons on the range.

Thank you for clarifying your position. I hope you understand why some will choose to not patronize the facility your operate because of your rules.

 

[GuyRelford]

Thank you for clarifying your position. I hope you understand why some will choose to not patronize the facility your operate because of your rules.

Understood. And others will patronize us because we work very hard to maintain a safe environment where shooters can concentrate on shooting - not the person next to them, or behind them.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Understood. And others will patronize us because we work very hard to maintain a safe environment where shooters can concentrate on shooting - not the person next to them, or behind them.

Why would they need to concentrate on them? Are you catering to brand new shooters that don't carry, or are you catering to the actual gun community?

I'm not 100% clear on why you guys, and other ranges, don't allow carrying. Seems like a pretty logical place to allow it. Everyone on the range has a gun, and they have been used inappropriately in the past in suicides/homicides... If it's going to happen, it's going to happen and there's little to do to prevent it. But I don't see a problem with everyone around me carrying while shooting down the lanes.

 

[mtgasten]

Understood. And others will patronize us because we work very hard to maintain a safe environment where shooters can concentrate on shooting - not the person next to them, or behind them.

sounds like someone is a little bit grumpy

 

[eldirector]

Just to stay on this topic for a second (and then return to our normal programming):

Where can you actually practice drawing from a holster? This seems to be a HUGE gap for a large part of the LTCH community. Ranges disallow it because of "inexperience", but there is NOWHERE to gain that experience. Kind of a catch-22. Sure, you can pay big bucks for an hour or two of hands-on training, but then you can't practice anywhere.

Am I missing something?

Oh, and I OC'ed to the Plainfield Pizza Hut the other evening for dinner, then a nice walk around the neighborhood. I still don't see what all the fuss is about!