What is wrong with European socialism?

[roisigns]

What is so wrong with European socialism?

 

[THard6]

that's a pretty vague question..
add to it so I can understand, please!

when I was still in school I had to do a project over Socialism, I still have a power point if I find it I will add it on here.
http://terryreport.com/html/european_socialism_.html

that's just a link I had used.

 

[printcraft]

What is not wrong with European socialism?

 

[Tomfoolery]

What's wrong with it? Haven't you seen the news over the last three years? As clearly stated by Marx and Engels socialism is just the road to communism. Communism is the goal (it isn't a party), socialism is the way to do it.

So the real question should be "What's wrong with communism?"

 

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[gvbcraig]

that's a pretty vague question..
add to it so I can understand, please!

when I was still in school I had to do a project over Socialism, I still have a power point if I find it I will add it on here.
EUROPEAN SOCIALISM?

Thanks for sharing your report.

My responce to the question is another question.
Why do the park rangers tell you not to feed the animals? Because the animals become dependant on those that feed them, and that becomes their demise. Then they are no longer free.

 

[findingZzero]

It's European.

 

[shawnba67]

We already tried European rule once, If I remember correctly we didn't like it.

 

[findingZzero]

Thanks for sharing your report.

My responce to the question is another question.
Why do the park rangers tell you not to feed the animals? Because the animals become dependant on those that feed them, and that becomes their demise. Then they are no longer free.

Free to starve to death? I guess you can do that to deer, but to people? The spirit of X-mas past is in yer future......

 

[AZ D]

Don't really want the government dictating how I live my life! It's bad enough that we are halfway there!

 

[SmileDocHill]

It's European.

and socialist.

 

[ultra...good]

Western Europe? Eastern Europe? Many countries in Europe under various types of socialism.
From being there a few times I will say this, everything is expensive. Not kind of expensive, really, really expensive. To make a round trip from Frankfurt Germany to Le Mans it was over $1200 American Dollars for fuel and tolls alone. It was about a 700 mile trip.
In Germany, you can collect unemployment for up to 3 years. When you are done with high school you take a test to see where you will go in the working world. Your options are on to college, and are given a field of study, or into a specific line of employment, construction, waiter etc where you will stay for the rest of your life. Income tax is nearly 40% of the wages in Germany too. You do not own property, it is leased to you by the government. You have a lifetime option, but it is only a lease and there is no guarantee that you can leave it to a heir upon your death.
These are just a few I remember from talking to people while I was there.

 

[printcraft]

Western Europe? Eastern Europe? Many countries in Europe under various types of socialism.
From being there a few times I will say this, everything is expensive. Not kind of expensive, really, really expensive. To make a round trip from Frankfurt Germany to Le Mans it was over $1200 American Dollars for fuel and tolls alone. It was about a 700 mile trip.
In Germany, you can collect unemployment for up to 3 years. When you are done with high school you take a test to see where you will go in the working world. Your options are on to college, and are given a field of study, or into a specific line of employment, construction, waiter etc where you will stay for the rest of your life. Income tax is nearly 40% of the wages in Germany too. You do not own property, it is leased to you by the government. You have a lifetime option, but it is only a lease and there is no guarantee that you can leave it to a heir upon your death.
These are just a few I remember from talking to people while I was there.

Wow, they are living the dream over there eh?

 

[Switch4169]

We already tried European rule once, If I remember correctly we didn't like it.

" and we fired once more and they begin to running down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico" Johnny Horton

 

[EvilElmo]

Free to starve to death? I guess you can do that to deer, but to people? The spirit of X-mas past is in yer future......

Wow, straw-man much?

Just because there are some of us who don't like having the government take money from us, launder it, and distribute a tiny portion to people who need financial help does NOT make us heartless or cruel. Massive government welfare programs (i.e. Socialism) ultimately are incredibly inefficient, rife with abuse, and end up sapping the will of those they're supposed to help. Just as Benjamin Franklin once warned we now have a permanent underclass. The Ghost of Christmas Past visited Scrooge because he CHOSE not to help, not because he was pissed off that the government stole his money, gave some to campaign contributors as kickbacks, and did a ****-poor job helping those in need.

I would argue that it's far more cruel to keep people in a state of what amounts to financial slavery, which is exactly what Socialism eventually does.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

What is so wrong with European socialism?

A couple/three things:

It's 50hz;
Some of them drive on the wrong side of the road;
Metric system.

 

[Thegeek]

Because I prefer to keep what I've labored for.

 

[jbombelli]

Taking care of YOU is not MY responsibility.

That's what's wrong with it. It makes it my responsibility, thereby diminishing what I have to provide for my own family.

 

[-Rogue-]

What is so wrong with European socialism?

That's a rather difficult question to answer, considering that each country has a very different model.

On a broader note, as I believe in the choice of the people through democratic institutions:

There is nothing wrong, so long as it was the choice of the majority of the people to give up certain freedoms of choice in return for the inherent increased cost of services with the minimum government guarantee.

While I may not agree with it, there is nothing wrong if the collective population makes the choice to not keep and bear arms (assuming there is not a Constitutional guarantee like the US). The people made the CHOICE (common theme here).

 

[Liberty1911]

In Germany, you can collect unemployment for up to 3 years. When you are done with high school you take a test to see where you will go in the working world. Your options are on to college, and are given a field of study, or into a specific line of employment, construction, waiter etc where you will stay for the rest of your life. Income tax is nearly 40% of the wages in Germany too. You do not own property, it is leased to you by the government. You have a lifetime option, but it is only a lease and there is no guarantee that you can leave it to a heir upon your death.
These are just a few I remember from talking to people while I was there.

We already have that here in the US. Don't believe me? Just refuse to pay your rent to the government one year and see if men with guns don't show up to remove you from their property.