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    blue2golf

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    The march at Stone Mountain has shades of the gun rights march on Richmond from Jan. of this year (seems like forever ago now).

    Yet where the threat of imprisonment for owning an AR looms large, the purpose of yesterday's march seems futile. Where were the mass of racists they called out to fight? If our nation is as irredeemably racist as they contend, they should've been overwhelmed by a mob of white hoods. Yet nothing happened.

    The demand for racism outstrips the supply.
     

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    The march at Stone Mountain has shades of the gun rights march on Richmond from Jan. of this year (seems like forever ago now).

    Yet where the threat of imprisonment for owning an AR looms large, the purpose of yesterday's march seems futile. Where were the mass of racists they called out to fight? If our nation is as irredeemably racist as they contend, they should've been overwhelmed by a mob of white hoods. Yet nothing happened.

    The demand for racism outstrips the supply.

    Wow did you ever nail that one.

    What if you had a hate in your heart and nobody wanted to hate you back. Would that be a sad state or what!
     

    JettaKnight

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    BLM? LOL
    We're living out a plan that was published in the 1950's by a retired Royal Canadian Navy officer (destroyer captain and later political education). You'd think that people would read it and refuse to be duped but no, that's not gonna happen.


    My google-fu is weak, and I’m curious. Elaborate por favor?

    I believe he's referring to William Guy Carr - a serious tin-foil type; Jewish bankers controlling the world and all that BS.
     

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    BLM co-founder Opal Tometi (on the right) pictured with Venezuela dictator Nicolas Maduro.

    maduro-black-lives-matter-linked-1024x682.jpg



    https://panampost.com/panam-staff/2...er-and-nicolas-maduro-revealed/#disqus_thread
     

    jamil

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    The march at Stone Mountain has shades of the gun rights march on Richmond from Jan. of this year (seems like forever ago now).

    Yet where the threat of imprisonment for owning an AR looms large, the purpose of yesterday's march seems futile. Where were the mass of racists they called out to fight? If our nation is as irredeemably racist as they contend, they should've been overwhelmed by a mob of white hoods. Yet nothing happened.

    The demand for racism outstrips the supply.

    There is so much empirical evidence of a lack of the level of racism claimed, that if they haven't figured it out yet after EVERYONE condemned the actions of Chauvin. Where were all the white nationalists standing up defending Chauvin? They have no platform. NO ONE agrees with them. But this militant extremist group can walk around actually threatening people, deluded into thinking they see racists everywhere, ya. The media, politicians, and academia think it's just fine.
     

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    My standard response to "You're a racist."

    Yeah....whatever, dude.

    What would you call a group that promotes it's own agenda at the expense of other races and is led by Marxists?

    #BLM.
     

    NKBJ

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    My google-fu is weak, and I’m curious. Elaborate por favor?

    Why certainly sir.

    We are currently living out the plan that was documented back in the 50's by a retired Canadian Naval Officer, Wm. Guy Carr. After destroyers he was a political education officer. In other words, that plan was his business. He learned of it and spoke out. He wrote books (though he certainly could have benefited from a ghost writer) and gave lectures and presentations. And to all appearances pretty well upset the people who think they run the world.

    I say think they run the world because they aren't God. And I say we're living out the plan because I read it, and having read I recognize. Post-911 things speeded up and voila, here we are. If you would like to read Carr's writings they can be had for free on the interseine. And, there are some lecture recordings on youtube as well.
    Hope you have fun.

    Just got told the spaghetti is ready.
    Later.
     

    jamil

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    My standard response to "You're a racist."

    Yeah....whatever, dude.

    What would you call a group that promotes it's own agenda at the expense of other races and is led by Marxists?

    #BLM.

    Maybe Marxist. It seems so to me. But possibly not as Marxist as we think. I need to learn more about that after hearing a presentation on youtube from Helen Pluckrose. She's an academic scholar in humanities, a coauthor of Greviance Studies Affair (AKA Sokal squared) where they wrote fake, absurd nonsense papers and submitted them to woke academic journals and got them published. She's also authored a few books, like Cynical Theories: How Activist Scholarship Made Everything about Race, Gender, and Identity―and Why This Harms Everybody

    In the speech she walked through the history of postmodernism, and parts of that merged with critical theory, and progressively grew into the nonsense we know today. Critical race theory, intersectinalism, white frigidity, basically everything encompassed in what I refer to as "woke". To me, "woke" means having become indoctrinated into the thinking behind the postmodern/critical theory stuff. The way she put it was a reification of postmodernism. So basically an instantiation of it beyond the theory, in which, some parts of postmodernism did not survive.

    For example, in postmodernism there really isn't objective meaning, especially in literature. So ideas like the woke's "lived experience" doctrine seems to fit right in with postmodernism's relativity. But it actually doesn't. "Objective truth" is something that's true regardless of what people believe. Woke people believe that intersectionalism, white frigidity, all the outcomes of critical race theory, that power and oppression are the only way to interpret anything, that they are all objectively real and they mean the same thing to everyone whether people are aware of, or believe it, it or not. So whether people believe it or are aware of it, all white people are inherently racist. That declaration clearly demonstrates they believe in objective meaning.

    Okay, so what about Marxism? Well, Ms. Pluckrose said it's really not Marxist either. She has cited things like that they aren't all opposed to private ownership of the means of production. They support black owned businesses. Some of them happen to be real ass Marxists. Wokeness itself is not fundamentally Marxist, according to Pluckrose. And BLM is not fundamentally Marxist, although it seems like Marxism to me.

    Nearly all the prominent woke orgs seem to have a lot of self-described Marxists in leadership positions. And just like woke people seem to have a lot in common with postmodernists, the woke seem also seem to have a lot in common with Marxists. I kinda suspect that Helen Pluckrose doesn't want to see the ties to Marxism in BLM because she's a self-described socialist herself. She's clearly on the left. She just thinks that the left's nuttiness has gone too far. I'd like to see her explain better why so many woke people are also Marxists or claim to be Marxists. Why does the path of progress for woke people always seem to lead towards Marxism and not away from it?
     

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    Amigo....your brevity prescription is out of date. Get down to CVS pronto.

    Let's put it this way, if you claim you're a marxist and have marxist training, you can't unwind that watch or walk it back. Not in America. Not ever.

    Marx was a pretty good observer of the human condition and made a number of very clear points. But he went off the rails with his solutions.
     

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    Maybe Marxist. It seems so to me. But possibly not as Marxist as we think. I need to learn more about that after hearing a presentation on youtube from Helen Pluckrose. She's an academic scholar in humanities, a coauthor of Greviance Studies Affair (AKA Sokal squared) where they wrote fake, absurd nonsense papers and submitted them to woke academic journals and got them published. She's also authored a few books, like Cynical Theories: How Activist Scholarship Made Everything about Race, Gender, and Identity―and Why This Harms Everybody

    In the speech she walked through the history of postmodernism, and parts of that merged with critical theory, and progressively grew into the nonsense we know today. Critical race theory, intersectinalism, white frigidity, basically everything encompassed in what I refer to as "woke". To me, "woke" means having become indoctrinated into the thinking behind the postmodern/critical theory stuff. The way she put it was a reification of postmodernism. So basically an instantiation of it beyond the theory, in which, some parts of postmodernism did not survive.

    For example, in postmodernism there really isn't objective meaning, especially in literature. So ideas like the woke's "lived experience" doctrine seems to fit right in with postmodernism's relativity. But it actually doesn't. "Objective truth" is something that's true regardless of what people believe. Woke people believe that intersectionalism, white frigidity, all the outcomes of critical race theory, that power and oppression are the only way to interpret anything, that they are all objectively real and they mean the same thing to everyone whether people are aware of, or believe it, it or not. So whether people believe it or are aware of it, all white people are inherently racist. That declaration clearly demonstrates they believe in objective meaning.

    Okay, so what about Marxism? Well, Ms. Pluckrose said it's really not Marxist either. She has cited things like that they aren't all opposed to private ownership of the means of production. They support black owned businesses. Some of them happen to be real ass Marxists. Wokeness itself is not fundamentally Marxist, according to Pluckrose. And BLM is not fundamentally Marxist, although it seems like Marxism to me.

    Nearly all the prominent woke orgs seem to have a lot of self-described Marxists in leadership positions. And just like woke people seem to have a lot in common with postmodernists, the woke seem also seem to have a lot in common with Marxists. I kinda suspect that Helen Pluckrose doesn't want to see the ties to Marxism in BLM because she's a self-described socialist herself. She's clearly on the left. She just thinks that the left's nuttiness has gone too far. I'd like to see her explain better why so many woke people are also Marxists or claim to be Marxists. Why does the path of progress for woke people always seem to lead towards Marxism and not away from it?

    Occam's razor. They're ****ing retarded.
     

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    Maybe Marxist. It seems so to me. But possibly not as Marxist as we think. I need to learn more about that after hearing a presentation on youtube from Helen Pluckrose. She's an academic scholar in humanities, a coauthor of Greviance Studies Affair (AKA Sokal squared) where they wrote fake, absurd nonsense papers and submitted them to woke academic journals and got them published. She's also authored a few books, like Cynical Theories: How Activist Scholarship Made Everything about Race, Gender, and Identity―and Why This Harms Everybody

    In the speech she walked through the history of postmodernism, and parts of that merged with critical theory, and progressively grew into the nonsense we know today. Critical race theory, intersectinalism, white frigidity, basically everything encompassed in what I refer to as "woke". To me, "woke" means having become indoctrinated into the thinking behind the postmodern/critical theory stuff. The way she put it was a reification of postmodernism. So basically an instantiation of it beyond the theory, in which, some parts of postmodernism did not survive.

    For example, in postmodernism there really isn't objective meaning, especially in literature. So ideas like the woke's "lived experience" doctrine seems to fit right in with postmodernism's relativity. But it actually doesn't. "Objective truth" is something that's true regardless of what people believe. Woke people believe that intersectionalism, white frigidity, all the outcomes of critical race theory, that power and oppression are the only way to interpret anything, that they are all objectively real and they mean the same thing to everyone whether people are aware of, or believe it, it or not. So whether people believe it or are aware of it, all white people are inherently racist. That declaration clearly demonstrates they believe in objective meaning.

    Okay, so what about Marxism? Well, Ms. Pluckrose said it's really not Marxist either. She has cited things like that they aren't all opposed to private ownership of the means of production. They support black owned businesses. Some of them happen to be real ass Marxists. Wokeness itself is not fundamentally Marxist, according to Pluckrose. And BLM is not fundamentally Marxist, although it seems like Marxism to me.

    Nearly all the prominent woke orgs seem to have a lot of self-described Marxists in leadership positions. And just like woke people seem to have a lot in common with postmodernists, the woke seem also seem to have a lot in common with Marxists. I kinda suspect that Helen Pluckrose doesn't want to see the ties to Marxism in BLM because she's a self-described socialist herself. She's clearly on the left. She just thinks that the left's nuttiness has gone too far. I'd like to see her explain better why so many woke people are also Marxists or claim to be Marxists. Why does the path of progress for woke people always seem to lead towards Marxism and not away from it?

    Did she happen to mention 'The long march through the institutions'? I think we're currently living in the marxists wet dream, and they're about to wake up limp and sticky. I don't see 51% of 55% having any of this
     

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    Did she happen to mention 'The long march through the institutions'? I think we're currently living in the marxists wet dream, and they're about to wake up limp and sticky. I don't see 51% of 55% having any of this
    I suspect that most people don’t buy this nonsense. Even liberals can see through this ****. However a lot of influential people are buying into it. Lots of companies are speaking the social justice speak. They have the major institutions. People are afraid to speak out. This is how it happened in other countries. And I hope we’re willing to speak up and take risks. Pushing back is what will save us.
     

    MCgrease08

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    I suspect that most people don’t buy this nonsense. Even liberals can see through this ****. However a lot of influential people are buying into it. Lots of companies are speaking the social justice speak. They have the major institutions. People are afraid to speak out. This is how it happened in other countries. And I hope we’re willing to speak up and take risks. Pushing back is what will save us.

    Most people don't buy it. Corporations do because they think there is money to be made from it. Kaepernick's deal with Nike, Disney/ESPN shows how quickly woke "activism" has been turned into a commodity. (Which also completely undercuts his claims of systematic white supremacy BTW.)

    Fortunately people are starting to push back. This week I have heard more public pushback then I have in months.

    Also, this lady, Mrs Lucy, gives me hope for the country.

    [video=youtube_share;c95E4b3a-F4]http://youtu.be/c95E4b3a-F4[/video]
     

    jamil

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    Most people don't buy it. Corporations do because they think there is money to be made from it. Kaepernick's deal with Nike, Disney/ESPN shows how quickly woke "activism" has been turned into a commodity. (Which also completely undercuts his claims of systematic white supremacy BTW.)

    Fortunately people are starting to push back. This week I have heard more public pushback then I have in months.

    Also, this lady, Mrs Lucy, gives me hope for the country.

    People are starting to push back. Like I said, that’s what it takes. But I’m not at all confident that influencers aren’t becoming indoctrinated themselves. Lots of companies are doing some pretty crazy “diversity” training. I’m sure not digging the internal memos I’ve been seeing.
     
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