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  • Que

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    I found this thought provoking. I know there are some guys on INGO who train in martial arts with bladed instruments. What is recommended in this scenario?

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ah_0gia4A0"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ah_0gia4A0[/ame]
     

    DaKruiser

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    Wow! I don't know but that's a scary scenario!

    I would hate to be caught in that position where all I had against a man with a knife was my jacket! :runaway:
     

    45calibre

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    with quick thinking you could have used the coat to wrap him arm up and prevent the knife from striking you.
     

    Black Cloud

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    Nothing but reaction, really. In a brutally swift attack like that, you're both gonna get cut. Hopefully, the victim can react with brutal swiftness back, and cause a large struggle, which greatly increases the chance of ending the attack, as opposed to absorbing stab wounds and just falling backward into darkness. This is exactly why LEOs are very wary of a 'man with a knife' scenario.
     

    42769vette

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    The only think I could see when the guy first attacked he went hard to the attacke's right side, he might have been able to grab hold and slide around to the attackers back side, but once it went to the ground he was in trouble
     

    Black Cloud

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    with quick thinking you could have used the coat to wrap him arm up and prevent the knife from striking you.

    In practice, yes. But in reality, it's a crapshoot. A knife is a dynamic weapon, and can be used backwards, forwards, weak-handed, swapped to other hand, upside-down, etc. Not always will a knife attack be blocked, even if you're ready for it. The person holding the jacket/club/other knife,etc. does not know where the attack is coming from, whether overhead, straight thrust, upward swipe...

    All my training told me I was going to get cut, so try to make the cut happen in a less than lethal area, i.e. using the top of the weak arm as the 'meat shield' while keeping the wrist area unexposed. And then pray that you can grab a limb, strike the eyes, grapple, or whatever you can do to lessen the attack until either help arrives, or you can escape to run and put distance between you and your attacker. It would probably never be pretty.
     

    Que

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    LANGUAGE WARNNG

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0jwpwzGpGQ"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0jwpwzGpGQ[/ame]
     

    T.Lex

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    Edit - oops, ninja'd by Que. I'm referencing the vid in the first post.

    Well, for one thing, the victim fixated on the knife - which is probably understandable, but short sighted. If you freeze the video as soon as the attacker moves forward, he's literally leading with his nose.

    If on the defensive, I think its just like "normal" grappling. Go for the other guy's vulnerability, not his strength.

    IMHO and of course, easier said than done, I understand.
     

    T.Lex

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    I am pretty quick. :) Alas, while I'm quicker than my wife and kids (at least for the next couple years), I'm not sure I want to leave them behind. :D
     

    The Bubba Effect

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    I'm going to go with shoot the guy with the knife until he quits trying to get up or you run our of bullets, then deal with your knife wounds and call 911 for your knife wounds, hoping you don't die from your knife wounds because there are going to be knife wounds.


    A more perfect response might be to try to circle away while drawing and firing, but based on my limited level of competency, I think shooting the hell out of the guy would be a good first step for me.
     

    Turf Doctor

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    Dang. That was quick.

    Run first and ask questions later.

    Only thing that can help is try to be aware of your surroundings. Anticipate other people and try to keep some diatance. This being said is the easy part, applying it is something else. There is so many distractions.
     

    42769vette

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    Yeah, I would probably take off. I have a few more 100-yard dashes in me. :D


    Im out of then, but do have 1 really good 30 yard dash left:D.

    When I quit MMA I explained to my wife the reason was I have about 2 minutes worth of seriously violent fighting left in my life, and im saving them for when my daughter turns 16 and brings home some guy that is just like I was when I was 16:D
     

    bwframe

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    This:

    [ame]http://youtu.be/9zm_UM5Y5HI[/ame]

    [ame]http://youtu.be/VKDJVkvU2Hs[/ame]

    [ame]http://youtu.be/XrIkGDGN16s[/ame]
     
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