vz.58 report

[japartridge]

So I finally got my vz.58 out that I got bought almost 3 months ago on Saturday...

Let me just say, it is one of the smoothest shooting rifles I've shot! I love this thing, recoil is very manageable, almost UN-noticable. I ran about 120 rounds through it using a variety of Mil-Surp, and Czechpoint mags, and various Mil-Surp, old Remington, and Tula ammo, and never had a single malfunction... had a couple of friends out with me and they shot it and agreed it was one of the smoothest weapons of it's class that they'd fired as well!

If you are thinking of getting an AK in either 7.62x39, or 5.56x45, you owe it to yourself to take a hard look at the vz.58! Now I truly understand why those that have them love them!

 

[snorko]

I am soon to be purchasing a Czechpoint VZ58. I actually want to get the sporter with the polymer fixed stock, I just like the looks of the stock on that slim rifle. Great to hear you like yours, how was the accuracy?

 

[Indy_Guy_77]

Love the look of those rifles!

Don't like the heft of those rifles! Of course, it's the heft that make recoil that much less noticeable.

If they only took standard AK mags...or could be easily modified to take standard AK mags... *sigh*

-J-

 

[snorko]

Love the look of those rifles!

Don't like the heft of those rifles! Of course, it's the heft that make recoil that much less noticeable.

If they only took standard AK mags...or could be easily modified to take standard AK mags... *sigh*

-J-

An Arsenal SGL-21, stamped AK with poly furniture weighs 7.15 lbs w/o the mag.

A Czechpoint milled VZ58 with poly furniture weighs 7.03 lbs w/o the mag.

To what extra heft do you refer?

 

[paddling_man]

Agreed. I've got a VZ58. With the fixed stock, it is considerably lighter than my stamped Hungarian AK. It is about the same as my AMD-65, which is really saying something.

When I heft my flat top 16" AR with red, magnifier, light and VFG... well, the naked VZ is sleek and light in comparison.

 

[Indy_Guy_77]

Guess that the milled receiver / folding wire stocked VZ2008s that I've handled have just felt heavier than a traditional stamped AK. that's all.

Perhaps it's a balance thing, rather than a total weight thing.

I still like 'em.

-J-

 

[snorko]

Guess that the milled receiver / folding wire stocked VZ2008s that I've handled have just felt heavier than a traditional stamped AK. that's all.

Perhaps it's a balance thing, rather than a total weight thing.

I still like 'em.

-J-

You could be right. They are so darn skinny, they look field stripped when they are whole.

 

[It'sAllFun&Games]

Getting ready to order one of these...
Japartridge, did you get the receiver side rail installed?
I'm thinking about doing that when I order it, even though I don't have plans to add an optic right away. I just figure it will be better than having to send it back when I do decide that I want to add a red dot.

 

[Cerberus]

I got a Vz2008 with the folding stock and the thing is lighter than my AR. I could be persuaded to sell it.

 

[Mosinguy]

 

[boozoo]

Well... here's my D-Tek.

 

[japartridge]

Love the look of those rifles!

Don't like the heft of those rifles! Of course, it's the heft that make recoil that much less noticeable.

If they only took standard AK mags...or could be easily modified to take standard AK mags... *sigh*

-J-

why would you want them to use standard AK magazines? they are heavier, and don't hold the bolt open on the last round? as to the heft, they are lighter than an AK?

 

[japartridge]

Getting ready to order one of these...
Japartridge, did you get the receiver side rail installed?
I'm thinking about doing that when I order it, even though I don't have plans to add an optic right away. I just figure it will be better than having to send it back when I do decide that I want to add a red dot.

I did the same thing that you are thinking of. I got the side rail installed, will be getting the CSA mount soon. I could not see having to send the rifle back to them to get it properly installed!

I would recommend getting it installed right off the bat, no reason not to IMO.

 

[japartridge]

I am soon to be purchasing a Czechpoint VZ58. I actually want to get the sporter with the polymer fixed stock, I just like the looks of the stock on that slim rifle. Great to hear you like yours, how was the accuracy?

I went with the classic Military version, as I'm planning on replacing the furniture anyway... I need a longer LOP, and a significantly larger pistol grip... I make FullAuto from MAC looks small!

 

[snorko]

I plan on heading over to the LGS later this week to pick up a poly sporter model, I just like the looks. I hope to have time to do a mini range report / comparison between it and an Arsenal SGL-20 I have sitting around.

 

[japartridge]

I plan on heading over to the LGS later this week to pick up a poly sporter model, I just like the looks. I hope to have time to do a mini range report / comparison between it and an Arsenal SGL-20 I have sitting around.

Nice! As to the accuracy, it is more accurate than I am! right out of the box I was shooting the caps off of 2 liter bottles at 30 yards.

 

[snorko]

...right out of the box I was shooting the caps off of 2 liter bottles at 30 yards.

You know those just twist off, right?

 

[japartridge]

You know those just twist off, right?

True, but what would be the fun in that?!?

 

[Indy_Guy_77]

Why would a guy want that rifle to use AK magazines?

Because AK mags are a thousand times more common and much less expensive.

Same reason that carbines that take Glock magazines are rather desirable: mags are everywhere and relatively inexpensive.

-J-

 

[japartridge]

Why would a guy want that rifle to use AK magazines?

Because AK mags are a thousand times more common and much less expensive.

Same reason that carbines that take Glock magazines are rather desirable: mags are everywhere and relatively inexpensive.

-J-

OK, I can give you the more common thing, but cheaper? I get them for $12.50 each now, if I would have ordered 6 months ago, they would have been $10 each...

As for the carbine thing, I agree, now if someone would come out with a carbine taking XDm mags, I'd be real happy!