Vaccines and stuff: Pt 2

[ZZZZZZZZZZZ]

You can try praying to the sky gods. It will make you feel better. It won't fix anything but you will FEEL all warm n squishy for awhile.

 

[chipbennett]

Long Lasting Cellular Immune Response Induced by mRNA Vaccination: Implication for Prevention Strategies

As the COVID19 pandemic continues to spread and vaccinations are administered throughout the world at different rates and with different strategies, understanding the multiple aspects of the immune response to vaccinations is required to define more efficient ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Do you even understand what you're reading/typing?

mRNA induces a cell to produce a foreign protein (in this case, the outer protein spike of the coronavirus), once. The intent is that the body sees that protein as a foreign body, thereby inducing the body to generate an immune response. It is that immune response that, in theory, would enable to body to produce the same immune response to an actual coronavirus.

So, no: mRNA doesn't "pass on knowledge". Once the cell produces the protein spike based on the mRNA instructions, those instructions are gone, the mRNA is subsumed, and the cell no longer has the means ("knowledge") to produce that protein spike.

 

[ZZZZZZZZZZZ]

You're right. Our elected leaders, the scientific community and the media aren't completely full of **** and dispense nothing but the truth. I can see why you refuse to abandon their path. Or maybe they were just full of **** about everything else except the vaccine. Yeah, that's probably it.

Plenty of BS and lies out there to work around that's why I'm here today.

 

[chipbennett]

You can try praying to the sky gods. It will make you feel better. It won't fix anything but you will FEEL all warm n squishy for awhile.

This explains a lot.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

You can try praying to the sky gods. It will make you feel better. It won't fix anything but you will FEEL all warm n squishy for awhile.

LOL…says the guy injecting himself with gene therapy juice.

 

[chipbennett]

Plenty of BS and lies out there to work around that's why I'm here today.

Indeed. You're doing a fine job of articulating the BS and lies, for us to dismantle.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

You can try praying to the sky gods. It will make you feel better. It won't fix anything but you will FEEL all warm n squishy for awhile.

Oh good, an atheist too. I did not see that coming!

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Plenty of BS and lies out there to work around that's why I'm here today.

To spread your own "gospel"?

 

[phylodog]

Plenty of BS and lies out there to work around that's why I'm here today.

Keeping the mine fields replenished.

 

[JCSR]

I think I know this guy!

 

[ZZZZZZZZZZZ]

Do you even understand what you're reading/typing?

mRNA induces a cell to produce a foreign protein (in this case, the outer protein spike of the coronavirus), once. The intent is that the body sees that protein as a foreign body, thereby inducing the body to generate an immune response. It is that immune response that, in theory, would enable to body to produce the same immune response to an actual coronavirus.

So, no: mRNA doesn't "pass on knowledge". Once the cell produces the protein spike based on the mRNA instructions, those instructions are gone, the mRNA is subsumed, and the cell no longer has the means ("knowledge") to produce that protein spike.

Reactive to a protein is passing on info on the cellular level. That's how other vaccines work too. They get a reaction from our b-lymphocytes. It's absolutely true that they use a different mechanism. Is that type of reaction more or less useful than one that is permanent for a virus that changes so fast?

 

[phylodog]

You can try praying to the sky gods. It will make you feel better. It won't fix anything but you will FEEL all warm n squishy for awhile.

I thought you took issue with drool cups full of things that don't matter being brought in to your debate? Change in heart or typical hypocritical lefty?

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Do you even understand what you're reading/typing?

mRNA induces a cell to produce a foreign protein (in this case, the outer protein spike of the coronavirus), once. The intent is that the body sees that protein as a foreign body, thereby inducing the body to generate an immune response. It is that immune response that, in theory, would enable to body to produce the same immune response to an actual coronavirus.

So, no: mRNA doesn't "pass on knowledge". Once the cell produces the protein spike based on the mRNA instructions, those instructions are gone, the mRNA is subsumed, and the cell no longer has the means ("knowledge") to produce that protein spike.

Yeah and I remember reading an article a few months ago where by (I’ll probably screw this up) the type of antibodies that are produced actually cause the immune system to ignore future coronavirus infections.

 

[ZZZZZZZZZZZ]

I think I know this guy!

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I have given literally thousands of vaccines to U.S. Service men and women.

 

[ZZZZZZZZZZZ]

I thought you took issue with drool cups full of things that don't matter being brought in to your debate? Change in heart or typical hypocritical lefty?

What? Please use coherent English.

 

[phylodog]

I have given literally thousands of vaccines to U.S. Service men and women.

Thanks for your service. I took more than my fair share while I was in. That was a very different time and I truly feel bad for you if you cannot see it.

 

[phylodog]

What? Please use coherent English.

Ugh. A we were having a good debate. Then you just had to go full drool cup over some crap that doesn't mean anything.

I think that 17th booster might be affecting your short term memory.

 

[ZZZZZZZZZZZ]

Do you even understand what you're reading/typing?

mRNA induces a cell to produce a foreign protein (in this case, the outer protein spike of the coronavirus), once. The intent is that the body sees that protein as a foreign body, thereby inducing the body to generate an immune response. It is that immune response that, in theory, would enable to body to produce the same immune response to an actual coronavirus.

So, no: mRNA doesn't "pass on knowledge". Once the cell produces the protein spike based on the mRNA instructions, those instructions are gone, the mRNA is subsumed, and the cell no longer has the means ("knowledge") to produce that protein spike.

Its the reaction to the foreign protein.

 

[KG1]

I have given literally thousands of vaccines to U.S. Service men and women.

Forced.

 

[chipbennett]

Reactive to a protein is passing on info on the cellular level. That's how other vaccines work too. They get a reaction from our b-lymphocytes. It's absolutely true that they use a different mechanism. Is that type of reaction more or less useful than one that is permanent for a virus that changes so fast?

Again, vaccines are rarely effective against highly mutating viruses. In the case of novel coronavirus: the mRNA vaccine has proven to follow that trend, with plummeting efficacy against Omicron and subsequent variants.

With Delta? And high-risk patients? Sure, the vaccine attenuated severity. The data prove that the vaccine did little more than that.