Since I am in a union and work at UPS, I should be able to make many of you angry real quick. But I am going to try to take the high road. I will not bash you for your choice to work for a non-union shop. It still is a free country. I respect your right to make your choice. Why can't you show the same decency to those of us that choose to work in a union? That is my choice, I don't see the need to put you down, by what authority do you put me down? My union has never told me who to vote for, and does not tolerate the dead-beats that you so often talk about. UPS still makes a handy profit. The salaried people in my department, their pay is based on my salary, and then they get 10% above that, plus one months salary, plus company issued stock. I do not complain about that. You see, their pay is based on the contract we negotiate, and still make money. As for the socialist issue, I have to laugh at that one. I just traveled to Dubai, Phillipines, Taiwan, Japan, Korea, and China in the last two weeks. And I have been doing this for 20 years. I see first hand what union wages do, and don't do in relation to other forms of pay standards. Believe me, you do not want to live like that. You have a choice, they do not. But I also know that regardless of whether you make the equivalent of union pay or a portion of it, if it was not for union pay scales, you would not enjoy the pay you do. Look at unions as a neccesary evil if you like, but to take up the banner that they are all bad, is in my opinion as wrong as you can get. Sure there have been numerous news commentaries regarding the bad deeds of unions. Surely you have better sources than that. It is funny, I was reading on another post yesterday about a guys girlfriend who was hurt at work, and she was being docked wages and her Christmas bonus. The comments were made, if she were in a union, this would not be tolerated. She was hurt at work, and should be paid. Can't have it both ways. I am not saying unions are for all, but I am one that is thankful they are there. Oh and by the way, Fed-Ex just announced a 10% increase to match UPS's price structure this week. As far as the USPS, there packages are flown now by UPS and Fed-Ex. Their non-union contractors could not get the job done as cheap as we could. Go ahead and flame my now, I am a big enough boy to take it, but my post to those opposing viewpoints was not degrading. Although we are not union brothers, we are still brothers.
As I said, I was on both sides, and the Teamsters didn't really have UPS by the shorts like the UAW had the auto makers.
BTW, it has been a few years, and it may have changed, but when I started at UPS, it was closed shop, so my choice was to join or look elsewhere for work.
That is the problem I stated...if it were truly a free market, union would be a true choice...no closed shops, and employers would have the option to deal with the union or not. Once there is a contract, both sides should be bound to it unless mutually agreed upon renegotiation of said contract occurs. Once the contract is up, both parties should be free (there's that word again) to forge a new contract or renegotiate.
I don't so much have a beef with unions as with the government for unfairly promoting and protecting.
For those who mentioned execs and other salaried employees "d'in the dog", so to speak, absolutely they do. But when they get caught doing so, they are at much higher risk to finding themselves on the street than a union member. No one can deny this.
Look at the teachers' unions. There are teachers in NYC and other locales who have been mandated to stay away from children by the courts, yet they keep their jobs. The school districts have to rent out office space for these losers to have a place to go into work and maybe do a little paperwork, but mostly hang out, drink coffee, read the paper, and watch TV while drawing a salary and earning more pension time. Does anybody really think this is okay? Check out the flow chart...
Again, the unions couldn't protect people like this if not for the government.
Finally, anyone who thinks that the Teamsters promote choice in the UPS workplace should read this and think again.