UK: Soldier Beheaded In 'Islamist Terror Attack' Near Military Barracks

[rambone]

There are MILLIONS of Muslims in this country.If only 10% of those are "radicalized" that means we have AT LEAST 100,000 potential terrorist ALREADY ON U.S. SOIL. I think we all need to be aware of our surroundings AT ALL TIMES. I don't believe we will have another terrorist attack of the size and scope of 9/11 but I do believe we are in for lots of Boston Marathon style plots.I hope our government wakes up and realizes the threat thats already right here on U.S. soil.

What do you propose happen to the 100,000 pre-terrorists? Maybe reopen America's concentration camps?

This.....

It's time for another crusade.

It might just be called the Fourth Reich the way we are heading.

 

[HeadlessRoland]

It's amazing how the same people who rail against abortion are whole-heartedly supporting genocide of 1/6 of the worlds' population.

Perhaps we should stop bringing war to their holy lands, and offer them a free will plane ticket to a Muslim country of their choosing? This problem of radical Islam didn't gain speed until the US and UN started sticking troops in the Middle East. Let them the hell alone. If they want to kill each other let them. Our constant intervention is what's making them mad.

I suppose self-determination of peoples is an outdated idea, but I believe it applies in this instance. These people are angry because we're dropping bombs on their people daily. It is religiously motivated for them. Let the Muslims have their land and the rest of the world to its own. They've stayed pretty well in the Middle East for a few thousand years why don't we let them alone there.

Sure, it's our misadventures in nation building and taking sides in conflicts that have nothing to do with us - that and their religion commands that they slaughter the non-believers and subjugate or slaughter the "people of the Book" (Christians and Jews). Have you read their book at all? It's very similar except being blasphemous. Noah, Adam, Eve, Abraham, Mary - even Jesus of Nazareth Himself is portrayed, albeit in a blasphemous fashion as a mere "prophet". But the notion that you think belief does not inform behavior is wrong, and dangerous.

It is absolutely disingenuous and a downright lie to state that this isn't based in belief. If you're not a true believer then it might be hard for you to put yourself in their place mentally but I assure you, the true dyed-in-the-wool true blue true believers absolutely have a plan to (re-)establish the "caliphate" of Islam.

To deny this is willful ignorance or willful deception. This isn't a clash of cultures or even a clash of religions - this is a clash of ideologies, of belief. And if you truly believe, truly madly deeply, that God has appointed you a task and will eternally reward you for carrying out that mission, you're going to be hellbent on completing it. Make no mistake, the Crusades were just a warm-up to the prologue of the next true global battle. Communism and socialism, current leadership of the Republic excluded, has been defeated. Islam will be our next battle, and a far more pressing one. The failures of socialism are readily evident. The perfidies of islam are far more insidious and difficult to discern. Especially since lying about islam to promote islam is permissible under islam. Look up "taqiyya". They are building a religion; they're making a brand.

 

[Dead Duck]

Yep, because we had such a problem with muslim terrorists in 1900. Or 1910, 1920, 1930, 1940, 1950, 1960, or about 200 years preceding that. This problem started to emerge in the '70s and '80s when we started sticking ourselves into their business. Let them stay in their countries and we'll stay out of them.

The attacker specifically mentioned British soldiers killing muslims. He didn't say it was to kill the infidels. If a foreign invader was regularly blowing 30 people up in a bombing every day with little more than an apology I'd be pretty damned pissed at them too. That's what we do in the middle east. 92% of rural Afghanis have no idea why our troops are in their country. They don't even know what 9/11 is. They see us as an invader plain and simple, and they are fighting the invader just as we would.

Since I love my country, and you seem to be a sympathizer to these terrorists, I will personally help buy you a one way ticket to a terrorist camp of your choosing.

Now tell me how it is all Bush's fault - even 300 years ago.

There has always been a "problem" with muslim terrorists, world wide. They've just recently been pouring into my country since they started getting their camels to fly.

 

[ZombieApocolypse]

Since I love my country, and you seem to be a sympathizer to these terrorists, I will personally help buy you a one way ticket to a terrorist camp of your choosing.

Now tell me how it is all Bush's fault - even 300 years ago.

There has always been a "problem" with muslim terrorists, world wide. They've just recently been pouring into my country since they started getting their camels to fly.

And not a word about conquistadors and their flying ships, well played sir

 

[zippy23]

If your religion is to kill people and enslave people, then you gotta go. Simple as that. These people will not stop, as stated by this crazed killer, so the solution is to end the threat completely. these people are not people, they treat others as less than cattle. And the argument that, "most muslims dont agree with this view of radical islam of killing other", then i say to that, you believe only some parts of your religion and not others? You choose what you think is true and false in your own religion? So then its not a real religion is it? Same can be said about many other religions, but radical Buddhists arent running around blowing their children up in crowded cafes. Islam is a religion of hate, murder, slavery, and tyranny. simple as that, and the fact that they come here and bring that stuff with them and it is allowed is pure garbage. Freedom of religion does not say you can freely come here and start practicing your religion by killing people and blowing up runners. Christians preach love, honesty, values, and are trashed by the left, muslims kill people, blow stuff up, and we shouldnt judge??!??! my god this country has become half good, half evil, and it looks as though evil is becoming the majority. it sure was great until it was allowed BY US to be taken. I am scared for my child.

 

[jbombelli]

Just so nobody forgets what this thread is all about ...

R.I.P. to a fellow drummer. My thoughts and prayers are with him and his family.

 

[Trooper]

Sure, it's our misadventures in nation building and taking sides in conflicts that have nothing to do with us - that and their religion commands that they slaughter the non-believers and subjugate or slaughter the "people of the Book" (Christians and Jews). Have you read their book at all? It's very similar except being blasphemous. Noah, Adam, Eve, Abraham, Mary - even Jesus of Nazareth Himself is portrayed, albeit in a blasphemous fashion as a mere "prophet". But the notion that you think belief does not inform behavior is wrong, and dangerous.

It is absolutely disingenuous and a downright lie to state that this isn't based in belief. If you're not a true believer then it might be hard for you to put yourself in their place mentally but I assure you, the true dyed-in-the-wool true blue true believers absolutely have a plan to (re-)establish the "caliphate" of Islam.

To deny this is willful ignorance or willful deception. This isn't a clash of cultures or even a clash of religions - this is a clash of ideologies, of belief. And if you truly believe, truly madly deeply, that God has appointed you a task and will eternally reward you for carrying out that mission, you're going to be hellbent on completing it. Make no mistake, the Crusades were just a warm-up to the prologue of the next true global battle. Communism and socialism, current leadership of the Republic excluded, has been defeated. Islam will be our next battle, and a far more pressing one. The failures of socialism are readily evident. The perfidies of islam are far more insidious and difficult to discern. Especially since lying about islam to promote islam is permissible under islam. Look up "taqiyya". They are building a religion; they're making a brand.

Radical Islam (the fascist side of it anyway) seems to be replacing communism as the ideology of choice for the left.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Radical Islam (the fascist side of it anyway) seems to be replacing communism as the ideology of choice for the left.

You have raised a very good point, which I simply don't understand. Islam stands in opposition to most every belief embraced by the left. Why in the universe are they so infatuated with it?

 

[Liberty1911]

You have raised a very good point, which I simply don't understand. Islam stands in opposition to most every belief embraced by the left. Why in the universe are they so infatuated with it?

Their hatred of Christians who support constitutional conservatism and personal freedom, far outweighs their ideological differences with Islam.

They think, ignorantly so, that Islam is the enemy of their enemy, and therefore their friend. So, they see themselves as having the same broad goals - The destruction of Christianity, destruction of personal freedom, and ushering in the all powerful state.

Make no mistake, their utter hatred of Christianity and the moral convictions Christians espouse, which exposes the left's moral decadence, is the driving force behind this alliance.

Even "conservative" statists ultimately have an underlying hatred for Christians. Neil Boortz said he'd rather live under an Islamic Caliphate than have people like Jerry Faldwell making policy.

Like Frankenstein's monster, the left is creating something they will ultimately be unable to control. Stockholm is burning as we speak.

 

[steveh_131]

thank goodness radical libertarians were not in power at that time....Europe would have been on their own....maybe some advise about a "free market solution" or adjusting their trade policy with the Nazis, but no real action and no real solutions

Some would call me a 'radical libertarian'. And you're right, I would not advocate forcing American boys to go sacrifice their lives for strangers across the globe.

If that generation was as great as everyone claims, I'm sure they would have volunteered their lives and their money to do it anyways without the threat of conscription.

 

[steveh_131]

Radical Islam (the fascist side of it anyway) seems to be replacing communism as the ideology of choice for the left.

Source?

 

[IndyDave1776]

Source?

You have to ask him for a source? It seems pretty obvious to me.

 

[Liberty1911]

You have to ask him for a source? It seems pretty obvious to me.

It's just part of his "schtick". He loves to play purposely obtuse. Although I sometime wonder if it's really on purpose.

 

[indiucky]

Source?

Uhhhh...The news? Their actions? Your eyes? Your ears? Their words?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ff5UXl44WU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpKVLVOr2FU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMNCTJ4kSE0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQT1pUpEMJI



Hack Wilson: Why Do Liberals Always Side With Muslims?

teresamerica: Liberals and Muslims Paths Converge

 

[steveh_131]

You have to ask him for a source? It seems pretty obvious to me.

I see them siding together as a common enemy of Republicans.

I don't see much evidence of liberals accepting the 'Muslim' ideology though. Are there a lot of liberal/muslim converts that I am unaware of? Most that I know are staunchly atheist.

 

[IndyDave1776]

I see them siding together as a common enemy of Republicans.

I don't see much evidence of liberals accepting the 'Muslim' ideology though. Are there a lot of liberal/muslim converts that I am unaware of? Most that I know are staunchly atheist.

I don't know about you, but that is what I get out of it suddenly becoming grossly politically incorrect to have anything unflattering to say or anything that would suggest that your anti-terror activities may consider the involvement of the fictitious 'religion of peace'.

 

[steveh_131]

I don't know about you, but that is what I get out of it suddenly becoming grossly politically incorrect to have anything unflattering to say or anything that would suggest that your anti-terror activities may consider the involvement of the fictitious 'religion of peace'.

Agreed, I do see some irrational solidarity as common enemies of Republicans.

That doesn't mean they are embracing the Muslim ideology, though, as Trooper asserted.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Agreed, I do see some irrational solidarity as common enemies of Republicans.

That doesn't mean they are embracing the Muslim ideology, though, as Trooper asserted.

I can't say that as we speak they are ready to bend the knee to Allah, but I can say that if they continue this course unabated, they will or else they will join the classes of people of which Ahmadinejad says 'We don't have any'.

 

[steveh_131]

I can't say that as we speak they are ready to bend the knee to Allah, but I can say that if they continue this course unabated, they will or else they will join the classes of people of which Ahmadinejad says 'We don't have any'.

Eh. I just don't see Islam taking over the planet like everyone says it will. Republicans can barely hang on to their beloved prohibition, how are we going to go from that to Sharia law?

 

[IndyDave1776]

Eh. I just don't see Islam taking over the planet like everyone says it will. Republicans can barely hang on to their beloved prohibition, how are we going to go from that to Sharia law?

I can understand how it would seem unlikely, but then again, remember the national tantrum the left had when Oklahoma established a ban against using Sharia in court. They claimed it can't happen anyway (in spite of examples of it happening in other states) and fought tooth and nail against a system of law that codifies most all that they call 'evil'.

Also significant is that Islam doctrinally calls for taking over the world, first eliminating infidels and then eliminating less pure Moslems until only the most true to Allah are left. The intent is clearly established. You may wish to review what happened to Lebanon, which was once a stable democratically governed nation.