Uganda Proposes Death Penalty for Gays

[ThrottleJockey]

In short, I really don't care what they do unless it threatens our way of life here in these united states.
If you want to Boycott goods from Uganda, go for it. If you want to impose economic sanctions against them, go for it. This is the only just and proper way of dealing with a sovereign government that doesn't do things your way. I assume you don't like the UN right? You want the UN out of the USA? Perhaps the way you think is contradictory to that and you should maybe reconsider what you truly want because I'm not sure you really know or have even given it any serious thought. From what you are saying, you may as well jump into bed with obama and rush in the one world government.

 

[lashicoN]

This is how we get into trouble? You cited Iraq, Vietnam, and Somalia, but oddly enough you left a few countries that the US went into off that list.

England
France
Italy
Germany
Japan
Korea

All seem to be doing fine thanks to the US. If it weren't for America and the Soviet Union, there wouldn't be any Jews in Europe. I have no idea how you can claim to be a Christian and then say that it's fine to kill an entire group of people who've done nothing wrong. What does it say in the bible again?

Thou Shalt Not Kill...in the United States
Love Thy Neighbor...unless they're gay.

Huh, those don't look right to me.

 

[lashicoN]

In short, I really don't care what they do unless it threatens our way of life here in these united states.

Well I can't wait to hear what you say when thousands of "aids ridden" homosexual Ugandan refugees move into your neighborhood.

 

[ThrottleJockey]

I have no idea how you can claim to be a Christian and then say that it's fine to kill an entire group of people who've done nothing wrong. What does it say in the bible again?

I never said it was Okay. And I'm not the one doing it. Also, the bible forbids sodomy so by your own argument they HAVE done something wrong. I'm going to let God judge them and suggest you do the same.

Well I can't wait to hear what you say when thousands of "aids ridden" homosexual Ugandan refugees move into your neighborhood.

Well then that would actually be a threat to my way of life as an American and it would become my problem wouldn't it? And as such, I would then deal with the problem at hand and not worry about another nations government.

 

[ThrottleJockey]

I have no idea how you can claim to be a Christian and then say that it's fine to kill an entire group of people who've done nothing wrong. What does it say in the bible again?

I never said it was Okay. And I'm not the one doing it. Also, the bible forbids sodomy so by your own argument they HAVE done something wrong. I'm going to let God judge them and suggest you do the same.

Well I can't wait to hear what you say when thousands of "aids ridden" homosexual Ugandan refugees move into your neighborhood.

Well then that would actually be a threat to my way of life as an American and it would become my problem wouldn't it? And as such, I would then deal with the problem at hand and not worry about another nations government.

 

[Carrion]

so systematic extermination of "undesirables" is ok with you if occurs in another place that is not the US?

Many places in the US still impose death penalties. Most of the rest of western world does not. What should they do about our systematic extermination of "undesirables"?

i bet you'd be singing a different tune if Uganda was making it a capital offense to believe in Jesus.

I would not.

 

[rambone]

 

[ThrottleJockey]

If it weren't for America and the Soviet Union, there wouldn't be any Jews in Europe.

Pure speculation and nothing more.

Thou Shalt Not Kill...in the United States
Love Thy Neighbor...unless they're gay.

Where does it say: Thou must intervene when someone else thousands of miles away might kill.
I already covered what the bible says about gays, so that one is obvious and a stupid question.

 

[BloodEclipse]

I've got a few questions for those opposed to this. Is Uganda a sovereign nation? Yes? I thought so. Does Uganda in any way pose a threat to our sovereignty as a nation or our way of life? No? Didn't think so. Would you want Uganda to attempt to impose their beliefs and policies upon you? No? Didn't think so. As Americans, don't we inherently believe in freedom and liberty? Yes, for all mankind. Does that only apply to sovereign persons or to sovereign nations as well? I will choose individual over nations any day of the week. It is their country not ours. If they don't like it, they can change it. It is frankly none of our business and we have plenty of problems to worry about right here at home without imposing our beliefs upon another sovereign nation. This is how we get into trouble, look at Iraq, Viet Nam, Somalia.........If you are planning to visit Uganda (yeah right) then enjoy your trip, if you are queer and planning the trip, reconsider.

Seems like the same things people were saying while Hitler was rampaging across Europe. That is the problem I have with Libertarians. If you see a problem, fix it before it turns into something worse. Think of all the lives that would have been saved, if we would have entered the war after Germany invaded Poland. No we listened to those who said "That doesn't affect us".
Our poor decisions killed untold numbers of American soldiers. Only fools believe that things that occur in other Nations has no affect on us.

 

[1032JBT]

Read most but not all the responses.........here is my view if anyone cares.


I do not support gays, but as long as they don't hit on me or flaunt it in my face then God will be the one to judge them.......it's not my place. I can have my own views, but they will be kept to myself unless they choose to put their views in my face.

 

[ThrottleJockey]

Seems like the same things people were saying while Hitler was rampaging across Europe. That is the problem I have with Libertarians. If you see a problem, fix it before it turns into something worse. Think of all the lives that would have been saved, if we would have entered the war after Germany invaded Poland. No we listened to those who said "That doesn't affect us".
Our poor decisions killed untold numbers of American soldiers. Only fools believe that things that occur in other Nations has no affect on us.

You're kidding right? So had we entered WWII sooner, we would have suffered fewer casualties? I believe the German forces would have existed in LARGER numbers earlier in the war. I also think that we were fighting the Japanese and Germany was just a sort of "bonus". I really cannot even remotely see a parallel here, Uganda is in NO WAY attempting to impose their beliefs upon the rest of the world, not even a small section of it. Nor has Uganda attacked the USA. If you recall, it was ultimately the attack on Pearl Harbor that caused us to enter WWII and had we not been attacked, we likely would have never involved ourselves. It was not our war until then and we kept out of it for that reason. Until this effects our way of life, we have NO BUSINESS getting involved. We are not the world police and shouldn't be. Who died and made us the biggest kid on the playground? You are all beginning to sound like the friggin' UN counsel. Let's not forget who the real enemy is here. Leet's not forget WHY they are the enemy. SO what do we do after we intervene and tell the big bad foreign government how to run their country? Do we set them up with a constitution and a democracy? How's that working out in the middle east? What sort of resources are there in Uganda that we need to protect for ourselves? It seems that the number of supporters this has in Uganda means that it is what they want.

 

[ThrottleJockey]

If you see a problem, fix it before it turns into something worse.

This is the problem I have with socialsts. Hey my engine has a bad knock in it, would you come over and fix it for me before it blows? I know it's not your problem, but I just don't feel like doing it.


MY GOD IF YOU PEOPLE EVEN HAD THE SLIGHTEST CLUE. Is this a gun forum or a community theater group? I'm really starting to see how the great "O" got elected. All you "conservatives" out there aren't conservatives at all. You're a bunch of pinko socialists hiding in the closet. Shut up and quit complaining about our administration, you've got what you wanted. What a bunch of sheep. I don't think there's but a SMALL handful of people left that even know what they want without being told by someone else and even then they don't know WHY they want it. You people make me sick.

 

[BloodEclipse]

This is the problem I have with socialsts. Hey my engine has a bad knock in it, would you come over and fix it for me before it blows? I know it's not your problem, but I just don't feel like doing it.

How is suggesting fixing something when you see it, the same as wanting someone else to fix it for you?

 

[ThrottleJockey]

How is suggesting fixing something when you see it, the same as wanting someone else to fix it for you?

Very good. Did the people of uganda see what they believe to be a problem? Are they asking us to fix it or are they fixing it themselves? Come on, 95% is not a number you want to go up against.

 

[ThrottleJockey]

You guys are aware that this constant imposition of our values and beliefs are the reason the rest of the world hates us right?

 

[BloodEclipse]

Very good. Did the people of uganda see what they believe to be a problem? Are they asking us to fix it or are they fixing it themselves? Come on, 95% is not a number you want to go up against.

If it violates individual rights I would say it is our duty to humanity to do so.
I don't always do the popular thing.

I do the things that I can live with.

I do what I know is right.

So if 95% of them were black and they decided that if you were any other color, you should be put to death, Thats ok with you? I mean 95% is not a number you want to go up against.

 

[haldir]

You guys are aware that this constant imposition of our values and beliefs are the reason the rest of the world hates us right?

We were told in the last election that the rest of the world hates us because we did not have a great leader like the Obama. The rest of the world would love us again if only we put him in the Presidency. We have now done so, but with what result. They still hate us. They will always hate us as long as we are stronger and wealthier than they are. I know that there are many in the US that sympathize with that. They feel it is unfair that we live the way we do while there is so much suffering in the world. They feel we should transfer out wealth to the other countries. They feel we should open our borders and welcome everyone here to take our jobs, draw our welfare benefits in numbers that are simply not sustainable.

 

[BloodEclipse]

We were told in the last election that the rest of the world hates us because we did not have a great leader like the Obama. The rest of the world would love us again if only we put him in the Presidency. We have now done so, but with what result. They still hate us. They will always hate us as long as we are stronger and wealthier than they are. I know that there are many in the US that sympathize with that. They feel it is unfair that we live the way we do while there is so much suffering in the world. They feel we should transfer out wealth to the other countries. They feel we should open our borders and welcome everyone here to take our jobs, draw our welfare benefits in numbers that are simply not sustainable.

Exactly!. The rest of the world hates us because they are not us. All the reasons that claim others hate us are just conjecture and have no measurable facts to back up the claims.

 

[ThrottleJockey]

So if 95% of them were black and they decided that if you were any other color, you should be put to death, Thats ok with you? I mean 95% is not a number you want to go up against.

Do you believe in democracy? Because it sounds ike they're voting on it and expect 95% favor. Or is democracy only okay when it serves your needs?

 

[ThrottleJockey]

Also, black is not a choice, gay IS.