UAW On Strike

[jamil]

Yeah, lets pump the brakes a bit, shall we?

Idunno. Do we have breaks to pump?

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Idunno. Do we have breaks to pump?

Only after market brakes...

 

[jamil]

Maybe ones made in china.

 

[Rookie]

Classifying that as abuse I think is a little hyperbolic. But I think it’s fair for the union to negotiate for them. I also think the contract GM offered is fair. But if the union is going to hold everyone hostage on parts over the temp workers, I have a hard time sympathizing with he union on that.

It goes a little further than that. Temps can be forced to work 12-14 hours a day. They can be forced seven days a week for weeks on end and then sent home for weeks on end. Rinse and repeat. No profit sharing, no bonuses, moved from shift to shift without notice. None of this can be done to seniority employees. I'm willing to label it something else. Got any suggestions?

United Auto Workers, it's in the name. How can we claim to be united if we are okay with people getting paid less and treated differently while doing the same job?

 

[bwframe]

Ford executive: "We have reached our limit" on UAW strike offer

 

[Rookie]

https://www.axios.com/2023/10/12/uaw-strike-update-ford-shawn-fain

I'm reminded of the boy who cried wolf. Maybe they have reached their limit, but it's not the first time they've hinted that they can't do any better.

 

[Ingomike]

I'm reminded of the boy who cried wolf. Maybe they have reached their limit, but it's not the first time they've hinted that they can't do any better.

What if the companies just don’t care anymore? After all they are no more than government pawns after the last downturn taking orders from government rather than building what consumers want…

 

[Rookie]

What if the companies just don’t care anymore? After all they are no more than government pawns after the last downturn taking orders from government rather than building what consumers want…

Wow. If consumers don't want what they're building, can you explain why all three companies have made record profits in the last ten years?

 

[jamil]

It goes a little further than that. Temps can be forced to work 12-14 hours a day. They can be forced seven days a week for weeks on end and then sent home for weeks on end. Rinse and repeat. No profit sharing, no bonuses, moved from shift to shift without notice. None of this can be done to seniority employees. I'm willing to label it something else. Got any suggestions?

United Auto Workers, it's in the name. How can we claim to be united if we are okay with people getting paid less and treated differently while doing the same job?

Do they pay dues? They took a temp job. Now if the company made false claims leading them on to believe that they’d eventually be hired on as FT union workers, then that’s pretty ****ty.

Speaking about “united”. I kinda wrote that off when the union voted to **** their future brothers. They took a big hike in pay and benefits and voted to **** new hires. They were like, meh. **** them. I got my raise.

 

[Rookie]

Do they pay dues? They took a temp job. Now if the company made false claims leading them on to believe that they’d eventually be hired on as FT union workers, then that’s pretty ****ty.

Speaking about “united”. I kinda wrote that off when the union voted to **** their future brothers. They took a big hike in pay and benefits and voted to **** new hires. They were like, meh. **** them. I got my raise.

The only way to full time is starting as a temp. Again, six years as a temp working full-time is pretty ******.

I'm curious about this big hike in pay and benefits. When did we get it?

 

[jamil]

Wow. If consumers don't want what they're building, can you explain why all three companies have made record profits in the last ten years?

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Because they’re making their money selling more upscale stuff. See Harley Davidson discussion. This is why Stellantis is trying to make Wranglers more luxurious. They took a working class purpose built SUV and putting hi end infotainment in it. It’s to make what they sell more profitable.

 

[jamil]

The only way to full time is starting as a temp. Again, six years as a temp working full-time is pretty ******.

I'm curious about this big hike in pay and benefits. When did we get it?

I’m talking about were I used to work. It wasn’t UAW.

 

[Rookie]

Because they’re making their money selling more upscale stuff. See Harley Davidson discussion. This is why Stellantis is trying to make Wranglers more luxurious. They took a working class purpose built SUV and putting hi end infotainment in it. It’s to make what they sell more profitable.

Obviously, people want them since they're selling a lot of them.

 

[Rookie]

I’m talking about were I used to work. It wasn’t UAW.

Sorry, I thought you were talking about uaw. You didn't clarify, and I was getting out my torch and pitchfork!

 

[jamil]

Obviously, people want them since they're selling a lot of them.

Cars are staying on the lot longer. People are buying them. Working class is ****ed.

 

[jamil]

Sorry, I thought you were talking about uaw. You didn't clarify, and I was getting out my torch and pitchfork!

Well it was the only union I’d have visibility into really.

 

[Rookie]

Cars are staying on the lot longer. People are buying them. Working class is ****ed.

It's record sales, not just profits. Again, people obviously want them.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

It's record sales, not just profits. Again, people obviously want them.

Unit sales, or $$ sales?

 

[Rookie]

Unit sales, or $$ sales?

Both

 

[Ingomike]

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Can we not have discussions without the passive aggressive BS?