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    KG1

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    I fully agree with both your points: That isn't the Great Wall of China and Trump is not controlled by the CCP.
    But yet knowing that you still keep posting it. I believe that you have posted it before elsewhere.
     

    TheTrooper

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    Believe it or not, I want to help you understand, I just am not sure how. Each person has their own path. I wish you nothing but the best. Good day.
     

    KG1

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    Believe it or not, I want to help you understand, I just am not sure how. Each person has their own path. I wish you nothing but the best. Good day.
    Is it helping me to understand by posting some things that are clogging up this thread which should be taken up elsewhere? I saw one post that i thought was legitimately relevant to this thread and I agreed with it.

    Good day to you as well.
     
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    Ingomike

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    You bought the Kracken lie.
    Do you have proof this was a lie? Do you have proof someone said “we made it up to fool Trump supporters”? Is there a smoking gun?

    No, there is not. There is no more proof for than against. Multiple generals said it existed, the CIA said it did not. To my knowledge the generals have never lied to the public, the CIA lies constantly but you believe them…
     

    KG1

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    I think I'll sit this whole reiteration of the "Kraken" brouhaha out this time.
     

    Ingomike

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    Well, now I don't remember for sure. I just know I've seen a few recently. I'll try and pay closer attention if I see one again.
    I do not think he can run ads as an undeclared candidate, he does not even have an exploratory committee yet. Although I read he may not and just go straight into the election.
     
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    Ingomike

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    He hasn't announced yet. I think he wants to run but also wants to govern Florida as long as possible. I guess the state law won't let him run for another office while being Governor. So he has to resign to run. I think he'll announce at the point where he thinks he either has to **** or get off the pot.
    I believe the law was changed for him a week or so ago…
     

    foszoe

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    Not diggin that. Would they pass such a law if Charlie Crist were running for potus while governor of FL? So basically, if there's a law against what you want to do, and the legislature will do whatever you ask, use that to get around the law. I mean, it's the democratic process. Kinda swampy if you ask me.

    See. This is the thing that kinda irritates me about DeSantis. I think he has pretty good political instincts in some areas. And I think he knows how to get things done. But in other areas he seems to lack self-awareness. Sometimes, just because you can get a certain thing done, like getting around a law that you find inconvenient for your political aspirations, doesn't mean you should.
    I woulda passed it with a 1 year sunset
     
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    jamil

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    Believe it or not, I want to help you understand, I just am not sure how. Each person has their own path. I wish you nothing but the best. Good day.
    What if the stuff you’re posting is bull ****? What if others are trying to get you to understand, but they’re not sure how?
     

    jamil

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    Do you have proof this was a lie? Do you have proof someone said “we made it up to fool Trump supporters”? Is there a smoking gun?

    No, there is not. There is no more proof for than against. Multiple generals said it existed, the CIA said it did not. To my knowledge the generals have never lied to the public, the CIA lies constantly but you believe them…
    Occam’s Razor.

    Or. Let’s just believe that aliens manipulated the elections from beyond the solar system?
     

    Ingomike

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    Occam’s Razor.

    Or. Let’s just believe that aliens manipulated the elections from beyond the solar system?
    OR does not apply to this topic. Do you deny the track record of the CIA/FBI in manipulating elections in other countries? Do you deny that they have the necessary tools to affect election outcomes?

    If you agree those exist, why is it far fetched that they would use them against a President they had spent years trying to get with proven manipulation?

    If you believe they do not exist we have nothing to discuss as we have both looked at the evidence and come to a different conclusion.
     

    buckwacker

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    Occam’s Razor.

    Or. Let’s just believe that aliens manipulated the elections from beyond the solar system?
    Sorry, but this isn't at all an argument. In fact, going with occams razor, which makes more sense: that the US intelligence apparatus, with a known history of manipulating foreign elections, would aim those tools domestically in an effort subvert the election of a candidate that many of these same people are on record calling a serious danger to the the country, or democracy, or whatever; or that there is a massive network of tens of thousands of election manipulators scattered all over the country in big blue cities approving illegal ballots, feeding ballots in machines repeatedly, ignoring or changing election rules on the fly, or whatever they were to have done to nudge to count to JB? I mean, a few dozen or hundred government hacker types sitting in dark room on computers running the best tools that truckloads of us taxpayer money can generate sounds like an easier, more assured thing.
     

    jamil

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    Sorry, but this isn't at all an argument. In fact, going with occams razor, which makes more sense: that the US intelligence apparatus, with a known history of manipulating foreign elections, would aim those tools domestically in an effort subvert the election of a candidate that many of these same people are on record calling a serious danger to the the country, or democracy, or whatever; or that there is a massive network of tens of thousands of election manipulators scattered all over the country in big blue cities approving illegal ballots, feeding ballots in machines repeatedly, ignoring or changing election rules on the fly, or whatever they were to have done to nudge to count to JB? I mean, a few dozen or hundred government hacker types sitting in dark room on computers running the best tools that truckloads of us taxpayer money can generate sounds like an easier, more assured thing.
    I think the things we know for sure explain the election outcome. Now if you’re speculating, and want to say it’s possible, sure. No problem with that. But if you’re saying it did happen, you better show me something besides wild as claims from a hasbeen attorney claiming she has “the kracken” which is predictably never shown.
     
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