To Democrats on INGO

[Racechase1]

I was a republican, but the party left me. I'm a conservative, and believe only these two things are needed by government; less taxation and less government.

As for helping the so called "helpless", it's sad to see the replies. They are showing how truly dependent this country has become. The government didn't need to do anything to help them 100 years ago, but now, thanks to government pandering for the vote , we think we do.

Sad to say, it's only going to get worse, because too many people like the "free stuff" they get from the government, and aren't about to give it up.

 

[LP1]

...To answer your question, All of the above, and yes, I'm happy for what I voted for if only because this president appeals to my sense of skepticism about how Washington works, and can appeal to my sense of reason. IRS scam? Most of these groups don't deserve tax free status and that should apply to either side of the aisle. Benghazi wasn't pretty, but not a deal breaker. Obamacare tries to solve a shameful problem for a first world country. We already pay for everyone's healthcare whether we realize it or not. Let's make everyone contribute that can. ... I really believe what I'm saying. I could stay out of this, but what fun is it just talking to yerselves.......OK, I'm done. Shoot me.

+1 to findingZero.

The lack of universal healthcare is a disgrace for our nation. I voted for R's for years, but they never took decisive action. Obamacare is largely what the R's proposed 20 years ago and what Romney implemented in MA. Now it's socialism / communism? Get a grip, folks. (Yes, it will cost more in the short term, and yes, I'm fine with that - it's the cost of living in a civilized society.)

I quit voting R when they started sticking their noses into the bedroom. Waging war on women and the poor is no way to run a railroad.

And the other stuff (NSA, Benghazi, Gitmo) - These aren't R vs. D issues - these types of things occur regardless of who is in power. Patriot Act, anyone? "Free speech zones"?

Shame on anyone who wants the president of the USA to fail.

 

[Bunnykid68]

Universal healthcare is nothing more than welfare anyway you try to justify it. Nothing is free and someone will have to pay for it and at the expense of those working the hardest.

 

[LP1]

Universal healthcare is nothing more than welfare anyway you try to justify it. Nothing is free and someone will have to pay for it and at the expense of those working the hardest.

Not quite. Folks on welfare are already covered under Medicaid. Most of the people to whom Obamacare extends coverage are the working poor or those with pre-existing conditions. Of course it isn't free, but we are already paying for it - Obamacare is an attempt to enforce some personal responsibility.

"Let 'em die" is not a viable option.

 

[copperhead-1911]

Well.. the smart thing would have been to grab him and interrogate him. How much information that could have saved lives was lost that night. Not to mention that the information used to find him was because of the interrogation techniques that BHO would not have used. Actually, finding Bin Laden is the one time it actually was Bush's fault.

Obama did no more in the raid on bin laden than the equivalent of a holder on a place kick. As mentioned it was info from the Bush years that got him.

 

[Bunnykid68]

Not quite. Folks on welfare are already covered under Medicaid. Most of the people to whom Obamacare extends coverage are the working poor or those with pre-existing conditions. Of course it isn't free, but we are already paying for it - Obamacare is an attempt to enforce some personal responsibility.

"Let 'em die" is not a viable option.

It is a viable option according to Universal Healthcare. If you are to old, to young or any number of things you may not get the treatment you need unless you are filthy rich or know someone.

 

[CarmelHP]

Unemployment numbers down? Only because benefits have run out. Down would be 5% of the whole workforce.

It's not down from Bush's numbers, just down from Obama's highest numbers.

Also, the labor participation rate is abysmal. The Obamapologists can keep fooling themselves that everyone but Dear Leader is lying or "political."

 

[copperhead-1911]

You know, I think you forgot about that Lincoln guy. It's one thing for a president to have people talk bad about his govt, quite another when people take up arms.

You get accused of racism when you mention Lincoln as being divisive, but considering Lincoln was as racist as many slave owners I will agree Obama is the second or possibly tied with Lincoln.

 

[LP1]

It is a viable option according to Universal Healthcare. If you are to old, to young or any number of things you may not get the treatment you need unless you are filthy rich or know someone.

Here comes the "they're gonna kill grandma" crap again.

 

[CarmelHP]

That's really interesting. I came from New Jersey

What a surprise.

 

[CarmelHP]

Knowing European nomenclature they called me a Libertarian.

Oh, big deal, see mine below:

You are a democratic National Liberal. 4 percent of the test participators are in the same category and 37 percent are more extremist than you.

 

[NomadS]

Couldn't the right wrong needy person become dependent upon cheerful and willing givers, assuming such givers existed to begin with?

Possible but much less likely. Bureaucrats in government are much less likely to care if a welfare recipient is needy and using charity well. In fact their job security improves if people become dependent.

 

[Grelber]

Isnt helping the less fortunate a biblical principle?

If that is what motivated the leaders they would be focused on fixing the debt, instead of focused on ignoring the debt and finding distractions that keep the debt off of the news.
Bankruptcy is going to create great harm to all, most particularly the less fortunate. Right now it is the more fortunate that are feeling the initial weight of higher taxes as a means to pay for greater entitlements at current levels of budget deficit borrowing. There is not enough depth in that well (higher taxes) to fix our borrowing addiction and the end game is obvious to both parties.
I think a fair analogy would be that current leadership is steering the ship in calm waters, rather than fighting a bit of current to avoid crashing over the falls. Serving your own best interests and intentionally damning the future is not a Biblical principle.

 

[lucky4034]

Obama did no more in the raid on bin laden than the equivalent of a holder on a place kick. As mentioned it was info from the Bush years that got him.

So if Obama is the holder (I wouldn't even classify him that important)... what was Bush?

 

[KLB]

So if Obama is the holder (I wouldn't even classify him that important)... what was Bush?

The quarterback that failed to get the TD?

 

[ViperJock]

Isnt helping the less fortunate a biblical principle?

Voluntarily.

Entitlements are paid for through threat of force. (Pay your taxes or go to jail)

 

[MisterChester]

What a surprise.

Fuhgetaboutit.

 

[Birds Away]

What a surprise.

Right? Too funny.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Pardon me for not perusing the 15 pages of quality content here, but here's my take after reading the initial post:

1. If you want an honest answer, don't ask aggresively.
2. There's a difference between typical "democrat voters", and those with larger agendas.

I believe the typical Democrat voter can answer your questions in a couple different ways. First, this President lied. About everything. Every. Single. Thing. All the stuff he campaigned on was a lie. But, people believed it, and that's why they voted for him. Maybe these are the people you want answers from?

Others would answer "yeah but bush...", and that's about as far as that conversation goes.

And others want this. Others are the "extreme" left, the marxists, the true socialists. The ones being taught this in school and believe it's the right thing. The ones that want strong separation and division among people. The ones that want Government over everything. They won't come out in friendly company and say it... but behind the anonymity of the internets they exist and I'm sure you've heard them loud and clear. They think this President isn't doing enough, and the opposition (us, gop, etc) should be eradicated.

So, them's your answers.

 

[RobbyMaQ]

*WARNING*
The ice got real thin with the scripture/religious discussions.